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MSgt Dale Johnson
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Services can't? Heck, people can't. Just look at all the ways people wear shorts. Some show their Plumber's Crack, some ride high on the hip some low, and old geezers pull them up to their nipples.
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MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
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Yeah. Look at Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York! BO-HO-HO . . .
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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Edited 9 mo ago
This seems like a pretty fair compromise to me.

Keep the screening table - if you pass that, there is a VERY low chance you are overfat.

Keep the tape test. If you pass that, then you still have no problems. But now the tape test is simply another screening tool. If you pass the tape test, carry on. But if you fail tape, THEN we go to a more accurate (but more expensive) assessment. And if you fail tape by like 10%, no need for BodPod, because even tape test isn't off by THAT much.

Screen out 70% with tables, quick, easy, and free. Screen out another 28% with tape test only slightly slower, more difficult, and expensive.
Then leave that 2% for the expensive consolidated test which will likely need to be scheduled as one piece of equipment will be servicing many units.

It will also eliminate "(s)he taped me wrong" protests because if if (s)he did, the BodPod still settles disputes. And it eliminates "I carry my weight differently" protests, too.

Services still maintain ability to process the large majority of folks through body comp screening in a relatively quick and easy manner, service members gain a more accurate method of confirming body comp prior to administrative action.

And with that in mind, with the tape test being treated as a screening tool rather than a final answer, it doesn't really matter who is rightvabout where the waist is (or, more accurately than the headline suggests, where it should be measured).
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MSG Thomas Currie
MSG Thomas Currie
9 mo
This does seem to be the best compromise, but with recruitment and retention both at unacceptably low levels perhaps it is time for the services to pay more attention to job performance and less to whether or not a service member would look good on a recruiting poster.

And, yes, I've heard all the arguments that "everyone might have to fight" and similar platitudes. Bottom line, if some computer programmer or microwave repairman needs to be running for his/her life the situation is way too far gone already. Each of the services makes all sorts of exceptions for people who have politically-correct conditions (now including not knowing what sex they are), but somehow need to have a clear line in the sand to force out people based on what they look like rather than how they perform.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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Edited 9 mo ago
I have already commented on the substance of the article, but I just HAVE to bitch about the photo. This is an obviously staged photo and I assume this is a Marine in the fore, due to the color of the undershirt.

But what kind of a Marine allows himself to be photographed FOR PUBLICATION in a ratty, holey T? Get it the fuck together, Marine.
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MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
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Hear! Hear!
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