Posted on Sep 21, 2019
Guy in UCMJ brief asking a lot of questions about age of consent
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Since we know it was duffleblog ..
Back shortly joining AF Reserves and I was at the base .. I signed a volunteer list
To help with setting up the hanger for the AF B-day bash.. it was not a drill weekend, we’d be setting up over the week.. so no drill pay.. I was eager to impart some of my catering skill I had learned before I joined. I had some good ideas for set up
(The hanger was huge so there be no prob setting ups mini tray reassembling
Closed off area with some rolling coolers
And other gear instead of making too many trays ahead of time. We could have some .. but as parties wear on and the. Crowd dissipates the need for less food set out is apparent and smaller trays could be set out or consolidated trays. Smaller pans of hot items.. getting off that and fast forwarding ... there was a woman there, close to 35 that was taking a shine to me. .. I do like attention from women,
Come on, I’m 17 and she’s about 35? I’m hoping for s’thing close to my age, not mom’s... She’s a gorgeous woman, curves in all the right places. .. really distracting .. ohh geez, what the heck...
So I get my work done and we’re talking
Off to the side out of the way of others..
and she’s gotten closer and.. and we hear
A big AHHEM and it’s her boss.. a older woman close to retirement age.. in the AF she would be already .. about 50+.. I think her physical frame was that too.. “Ms K——. Do you have all your work done here,
and why are you playing footsie with that young Airman ? How old are you young man, does your mother know your flirting with someone close to her age, what would your father say?” I didn’t get a chance to say... She called the CMSGT at the Food Svc section... She told him I wasn’t the blame her own admin assistant was.. anyway she went on an on.. Chief told me he thought I could handle the sitrep.. and hung up on her.., I told Chief I appreciated his confidence in me.. and I was about to ask her.. and she pressed a note paper in my hand thinking the ol’ crone didn’t see her do it.. “what did she give you ?” “Just a piece of paper .. “.
and I put it in my pocket. “ Give it up! I want it !” “Follow my chain of command and maybe if you be nice ...I might let you have a peak!”’ “Do you know who your talk’g to Airman?”( I was A1C so I could let that slide..) “Frankly my dear, I really don’t give rat’s ass, that paper is for my viewing only..And my day is done here, anything else direct to the CMSGT T the Food Svc section. Bye !” and I made my exit . I found out the number she gave me was a Dearborn hts number. I made a stop at the exchange gas station to fill up.
Chief at least got me a letter for exchange and commissary privilege.. I stopped there too, why waste the effort to get me that letter? .. I told Chief later I wasn’t worried about the drill pay, it was a day off school which was a half day that day .. Chief had cut a letter and sent it directly to the vo-tech dept. and it was a good experience to put what I learned to work...
I was going to work late at the Restaurant that night.. They liked my idea of the mini set up area and we used it and cleaned up after . We got our gear Coolers tables, cutting boards, knives, can opener back to the D.H. And swept up and mopped and any trash we made gone to the dumpster.. the Civ. clean-up detail the Sergeant of maintenance sq.
Didn’t have anything to do. It was my idea so it was my cleanup .. After that
Bash all the workers got a nice certificate except yours truly.. I figured the ol’ Crone had something to do with that... in December the Wing Cmdr presented our team of volunteers(3 Reservist & 2 civil service) a nice appreciation certificate,
The other 2 Reservists griped the civil svc
Prob’ly Got paid .. it’s not my prob ok, they got to live with it in their heart.., don’t give yourselves high blood pressure over it ! You got your letter for exchange and commissary? Did you use it? Good I don’t want to hear anymore ! I saved my letter with important papers in case somebody tried to say they seen us on a non drill weekend using bx and commissary ... we got the Chief’s and Admin officer’s Signature.. so it’s on Them for authorizing it.
I found that the admin assistant was 32..
Them days the SJWs weren’t all running around prosecuting teachers and older women preying on young guys.. I figure it’s kind of a two way street for “some” young guys, that some blame goes on them too. Later .. I wasn’t traumatized,
Maybe in a good way..I was.. didn’t have to go to a therapist.. Most are people going after the clergy, mainly because of
Their occupation.. there may have been “some” abuse.. was it just touching,?
Inappropriately.. penetration in a body cavity ? Sure I can see doing s’thing about that .. Somebody I know was at a family party.. drinking going on.. and he admitted that a woman teacher took advantage of him when he was 15.. the sex, the touching.. and his Sis overheard it.. both parents are deceased.. She’s older and was his guardian at that time.
He had other older siblings too. . She wanted to know fro m a legal standpoint that she was his guardian then, did she have a right at the present time to press charges against that teacher’s estate (since she’s prob’l y Deceased.. )! I say let it go , why bother anybody else, except that school board maybe.. it was like 30 years ago at that time.. I never told mom n dad about that admin assistant.. I thought I could handle it.. I was as guilty as her when I took her number and met up later on our own time. (I don’t know where the UCMJ comes into play.. after all she was chasing me... and I had that light rose colored card and off-duty when we met up later. My conduct was pretty much honorable. . Nothing forced she didn’t want.. . So was I bound by rules to report her conduct .. at first maybe, but I think it went away when I took that phone number and contacted her.. I think after
I would be setting her up.. and that is NOT proper either.. back when I turned 17 and joined Reserves, and my parents signed giving approval was a Declaration of Independence... even though I still was able to reside at home under their roof(and to clarify; no sexual hanky pansy
Penetration [both types] took place there)
I know that’s too much info, but I felt clarification was necessary.. because if I was lying then I got that thought of a hammer coming down on me.. and never knowing when ! Mom n Dad had met
her.. Mom voiced her displeasure but even she said they signed that contract..
“But ... I’m Still your mom !” Dad didn’t have to say anything... Grandpa on Dad’s side was deceased and Grandma was dealing with dementia., both grands on mom’s side were past so that left it to some other senior Aunts-n-Uncles to weigh in with thoughts, opinions.. a few older cousins too. Many I didn’t see as much but word gets around .. some are good about it and a few stretch out of proportion(she’s almost old enough to be his mother... well maybe an aunt). Some you can’t avoid seeing.. and the harder you try.... so, I didn’t try and let the chips fall !.. we didn’t much have the same interests.. My new friend liked going to one of the Kensington parks .. so we picked one we didn’t think they didn’t know of... or thought might too far .. I had a couple like that... pinches the sweat out of every penny but blows on going to Reno or Lake Tahoe or Vegas.. We would kind of secretly go to Kensington park..
I’d get beach towel and my AF P.T. Trunks and a few other items in the car... I be in a hurry s’times and just put in back seat..
Mom thinking that the towel is wet wants to get it.. She finds her key.. does she just feel it? No she takes it in the house ..
“Why didn’t you tell us you were going?”
“Oh h I was.!” “When at the last minute just before you were leaving so we wouldn’t have a chance to get ready in time? You are stingy !” “Ok, we’re going tomorrow, the park has a pool..
can you come?” “No.. I have to clean house, how about Saturday?” Too bad, we’re going tomorrow, I’ve got Drill time coming up.. I grab my towel and trunks and back to the car... “I see that smile !”
(I think how’d she know that ? That's Right she’s a mom, they know!). Missey and I had a pretty decent relationship. She’d Get other admin workers to not want to volunteer to work on our drill weekends so she could bring any paperwork from the Cmdr over.. and visit a few minutes.. they knew her and I had s’thing going on.. the ol’ crone found out and put a stop to it.. everybody would take a couple weekdays off and work drill weekend.. or take a day before and a day after.. so missey would sign up like that and have a Friday and Monday .. Geez don’t do that way, I like getting there early Friday so we can have “lunch” ! ... Her boss liked flirting with the Chief.. he was widower and she was a ol’ spinster..
so she’d sign up for a couple weekends.,
Chief liked being involved.. and s’times she got in his way.. and he’d tell her and stuff didn’t get to him the way it should..
So we were all between a rock n hard place.. because we needed to know too..
If life could be simpler ..hmmZ
Back shortly joining AF Reserves and I was at the base .. I signed a volunteer list
To help with setting up the hanger for the AF B-day bash.. it was not a drill weekend, we’d be setting up over the week.. so no drill pay.. I was eager to impart some of my catering skill I had learned before I joined. I had some good ideas for set up
(The hanger was huge so there be no prob setting ups mini tray reassembling
Closed off area with some rolling coolers
And other gear instead of making too many trays ahead of time. We could have some .. but as parties wear on and the. Crowd dissipates the need for less food set out is apparent and smaller trays could be set out or consolidated trays. Smaller pans of hot items.. getting off that and fast forwarding ... there was a woman there, close to 35 that was taking a shine to me. .. I do like attention from women,
Come on, I’m 17 and she’s about 35? I’m hoping for s’thing close to my age, not mom’s... She’s a gorgeous woman, curves in all the right places. .. really distracting .. ohh geez, what the heck...
So I get my work done and we’re talking
Off to the side out of the way of others..
and she’s gotten closer and.. and we hear
A big AHHEM and it’s her boss.. a older woman close to retirement age.. in the AF she would be already .. about 50+.. I think her physical frame was that too.. “Ms K——. Do you have all your work done here,
and why are you playing footsie with that young Airman ? How old are you young man, does your mother know your flirting with someone close to her age, what would your father say?” I didn’t get a chance to say... She called the CMSGT at the Food Svc section... She told him I wasn’t the blame her own admin assistant was.. anyway she went on an on.. Chief told me he thought I could handle the sitrep.. and hung up on her.., I told Chief I appreciated his confidence in me.. and I was about to ask her.. and she pressed a note paper in my hand thinking the ol’ crone didn’t see her do it.. “what did she give you ?” “Just a piece of paper .. “.
and I put it in my pocket. “ Give it up! I want it !” “Follow my chain of command and maybe if you be nice ...I might let you have a peak!”’ “Do you know who your talk’g to Airman?”( I was A1C so I could let that slide..) “Frankly my dear, I really don’t give rat’s ass, that paper is for my viewing only..And my day is done here, anything else direct to the CMSGT T the Food Svc section. Bye !” and I made my exit . I found out the number she gave me was a Dearborn hts number. I made a stop at the exchange gas station to fill up.
Chief at least got me a letter for exchange and commissary privilege.. I stopped there too, why waste the effort to get me that letter? .. I told Chief later I wasn’t worried about the drill pay, it was a day off school which was a half day that day .. Chief had cut a letter and sent it directly to the vo-tech dept. and it was a good experience to put what I learned to work...
I was going to work late at the Restaurant that night.. They liked my idea of the mini set up area and we used it and cleaned up after . We got our gear Coolers tables, cutting boards, knives, can opener back to the D.H. And swept up and mopped and any trash we made gone to the dumpster.. the Civ. clean-up detail the Sergeant of maintenance sq.
Didn’t have anything to do. It was my idea so it was my cleanup .. After that
Bash all the workers got a nice certificate except yours truly.. I figured the ol’ Crone had something to do with that... in December the Wing Cmdr presented our team of volunteers(3 Reservist & 2 civil service) a nice appreciation certificate,
The other 2 Reservists griped the civil svc
Prob’ly Got paid .. it’s not my prob ok, they got to live with it in their heart.., don’t give yourselves high blood pressure over it ! You got your letter for exchange and commissary? Did you use it? Good I don’t want to hear anymore ! I saved my letter with important papers in case somebody tried to say they seen us on a non drill weekend using bx and commissary ... we got the Chief’s and Admin officer’s Signature.. so it’s on Them for authorizing it.
I found that the admin assistant was 32..
Them days the SJWs weren’t all running around prosecuting teachers and older women preying on young guys.. I figure it’s kind of a two way street for “some” young guys, that some blame goes on them too. Later .. I wasn’t traumatized,
Maybe in a good way..I was.. didn’t have to go to a therapist.. Most are people going after the clergy, mainly because of
Their occupation.. there may have been “some” abuse.. was it just touching,?
Inappropriately.. penetration in a body cavity ? Sure I can see doing s’thing about that .. Somebody I know was at a family party.. drinking going on.. and he admitted that a woman teacher took advantage of him when he was 15.. the sex, the touching.. and his Sis overheard it.. both parents are deceased.. She’s older and was his guardian at that time.
He had other older siblings too. . She wanted to know fro m a legal standpoint that she was his guardian then, did she have a right at the present time to press charges against that teacher’s estate (since she’s prob’l y Deceased.. )! I say let it go , why bother anybody else, except that school board maybe.. it was like 30 years ago at that time.. I never told mom n dad about that admin assistant.. I thought I could handle it.. I was as guilty as her when I took her number and met up later on our own time. (I don’t know where the UCMJ comes into play.. after all she was chasing me... and I had that light rose colored card and off-duty when we met up later. My conduct was pretty much honorable. . Nothing forced she didn’t want.. . So was I bound by rules to report her conduct .. at first maybe, but I think it went away when I took that phone number and contacted her.. I think after
I would be setting her up.. and that is NOT proper either.. back when I turned 17 and joined Reserves, and my parents signed giving approval was a Declaration of Independence... even though I still was able to reside at home under their roof(and to clarify; no sexual hanky pansy
Penetration [both types] took place there)
I know that’s too much info, but I felt clarification was necessary.. because if I was lying then I got that thought of a hammer coming down on me.. and never knowing when ! Mom n Dad had met
her.. Mom voiced her displeasure but even she said they signed that contract..
“But ... I’m Still your mom !” Dad didn’t have to say anything... Grandpa on Dad’s side was deceased and Grandma was dealing with dementia., both grands on mom’s side were past so that left it to some other senior Aunts-n-Uncles to weigh in with thoughts, opinions.. a few older cousins too. Many I didn’t see as much but word gets around .. some are good about it and a few stretch out of proportion(she’s almost old enough to be his mother... well maybe an aunt). Some you can’t avoid seeing.. and the harder you try.... so, I didn’t try and let the chips fall !.. we didn’t much have the same interests.. My new friend liked going to one of the Kensington parks .. so we picked one we didn’t think they didn’t know of... or thought might too far .. I had a couple like that... pinches the sweat out of every penny but blows on going to Reno or Lake Tahoe or Vegas.. We would kind of secretly go to Kensington park..
I’d get beach towel and my AF P.T. Trunks and a few other items in the car... I be in a hurry s’times and just put in back seat..
Mom thinking that the towel is wet wants to get it.. She finds her key.. does she just feel it? No she takes it in the house ..
“Why didn’t you tell us you were going?”
“Oh h I was.!” “When at the last minute just before you were leaving so we wouldn’t have a chance to get ready in time? You are stingy !” “Ok, we’re going tomorrow, the park has a pool..
can you come?” “No.. I have to clean house, how about Saturday?” Too bad, we’re going tomorrow, I’ve got Drill time coming up.. I grab my towel and trunks and back to the car... “I see that smile !”
(I think how’d she know that ? That's Right she’s a mom, they know!). Missey and I had a pretty decent relationship. She’d Get other admin workers to not want to volunteer to work on our drill weekends so she could bring any paperwork from the Cmdr over.. and visit a few minutes.. they knew her and I had s’thing going on.. the ol’ crone found out and put a stop to it.. everybody would take a couple weekdays off and work drill weekend.. or take a day before and a day after.. so missey would sign up like that and have a Friday and Monday .. Geez don’t do that way, I like getting there early Friday so we can have “lunch” ! ... Her boss liked flirting with the Chief.. he was widower and she was a ol’ spinster..
so she’d sign up for a couple weekends.,
Chief liked being involved.. and s’times she got in his way.. and he’d tell her and stuff didn’t get to him the way it should..
So we were all between a rock n hard place.. because we needed to know too..
If life could be simpler ..hmmZ
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