Posted on Apr 10, 2024
Michigan School Shooter’s Parents Sentenced to More Than 10 Years in Prison
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As it should be Brother Dale. Aiding and abetting is also part of this story.
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This is a dangerous precedent.
From the link:
Parents typically can't be criminally prosecuted for their children's acts simply because they are parents. Certainly, if the parent participates or encourages the act, the parent could be charged directly, as an accessory, or even as a co-conspirator. But such involvement is rare. More often, parents are unaware or unable to control their children's behavior. Can these parents be criminally charged?
Laws vary from state to state, but here are the types of criminal charges prosecutors might be able to bring in appropriate cases:
Contributing to the delinquency of a minor (CDM) crimes. CDM laws are commonly used to prosecute parents criminally. These laws punish any adults, including parents, who cause or contribute to a child's criminal act. For example, a liquor store clerk or parent could be prosecuted for providing alcohol to a minor. Some states also apply CDM laws to parents who encourage their minor children to steal, let their kids break curfew, or fail to ensure that their kids go to school.
Improper supervision laws. A few states punish parents for failing to supervise their children properly. For example, Louisiana's law makes a parent criminally liable if the parent allows a child to associate with certain people (for example gang members), enter places where the parent knows there is activity involving sex, drugs, underage drinking, gambling, or illegal weapons, or allows the child to be habitually absent or tardy from school or violate curfew. (La. Rev. Stat. § 14:92.2 (2023).)
Firearm statutes. Many states require parents to secure their guns and ammunition, with resulting criminal penalties if they fail to do so. In some states, the parent would be charged with child endangerment for allowing a child to access a gun.
California’s parental responsibility statute is a model for many states. The statute originally only prohibited contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but lawmakers later added a second section requiring parents to "exercise reasonable care, supervision, protection, and control over their minor child." California makes it a misdemeanor (punishable by a fine of up to $2,500 and up to a year in jail, or a period of probation) for parents who fail to do their parental duty or encourage their children to commit acts that would bring them before the juvenile court system.
https://legal-info.lawyers.com/criminal/juvenile-law/parents-responsibility-for-their-childs-actions.html#:~:text=Parents%20typically%20can%27t%20be%20criminally%20prosecuted%20for%20their,as%20a%20co-conspirator.%20But%20such%20involvement%20is%20rare.
From the link:
Parents typically can't be criminally prosecuted for their children's acts simply because they are parents. Certainly, if the parent participates or encourages the act, the parent could be charged directly, as an accessory, or even as a co-conspirator. But such involvement is rare. More often, parents are unaware or unable to control their children's behavior. Can these parents be criminally charged?
Laws vary from state to state, but here are the types of criminal charges prosecutors might be able to bring in appropriate cases:
Contributing to the delinquency of a minor (CDM) crimes. CDM laws are commonly used to prosecute parents criminally. These laws punish any adults, including parents, who cause or contribute to a child's criminal act. For example, a liquor store clerk or parent could be prosecuted for providing alcohol to a minor. Some states also apply CDM laws to parents who encourage their minor children to steal, let their kids break curfew, or fail to ensure that their kids go to school.
Improper supervision laws. A few states punish parents for failing to supervise their children properly. For example, Louisiana's law makes a parent criminally liable if the parent allows a child to associate with certain people (for example gang members), enter places where the parent knows there is activity involving sex, drugs, underage drinking, gambling, or illegal weapons, or allows the child to be habitually absent or tardy from school or violate curfew. (La. Rev. Stat. § 14:92.2 (2023).)
Firearm statutes. Many states require parents to secure their guns and ammunition, with resulting criminal penalties if they fail to do so. In some states, the parent would be charged with child endangerment for allowing a child to access a gun.
California’s parental responsibility statute is a model for many states. The statute originally only prohibited contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but lawmakers later added a second section requiring parents to "exercise reasonable care, supervision, protection, and control over their minor child." California makes it a misdemeanor (punishable by a fine of up to $2,500 and up to a year in jail, or a period of probation) for parents who fail to do their parental duty or encourage their children to commit acts that would bring them before the juvenile court system.
https://legal-info.lawyers.com/criminal/juvenile-law/parents-responsibility-for-their-childs-actions.html#:~:text=Parents%20typically%20can%27t%20be%20criminally%20prosecuted%20for%20their,as%20a%20co-conspirator.%20But%20such%20involvement%20is%20rare.
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PO3 Edward Riddle
I think anybody who buys a mentally ill person a gun and then doesn't secure it properly is responsible for whatever the mentally ill person does, period!!!
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Maj John Bell
PO3 Edward Riddle - How many parents have said, "My kid would never do that" and it ends with a tragedy?
_Drink
_Drugs
_Stalk
_Cyberbully
_Armed robbery
_Fight
_Commit suicide
_Steal a car, recklessly joy ride and kill a bystander.
_etc. etc. etc.
"Despite these indicators, neither James nor Jennifer alerted the school to the fact they had just purchased a gun similar to the one shown in the drawing. They left him at the school and went back to their jobs, without returning home to make sure the gun was still secured. School administrators neglected to search Ethan’s backpack, where the gun was still hidden."
I repeat ***School administrators neglected to search Ethan’s backpack, where the gun was still hidden."***
If people can be held criminally liable for another based on "reckless indifference," When can we expect the indictment of the school staff?"
https://nypost.com/2022/10/26/4-teens-killed-in-buffalo-crash-while-attempting-tiktok-kia-challenge/
_Drink
_Drugs
_Stalk
_Cyberbully
_Armed robbery
_Fight
_Commit suicide
_Steal a car, recklessly joy ride and kill a bystander.
_etc. etc. etc.
"Despite these indicators, neither James nor Jennifer alerted the school to the fact they had just purchased a gun similar to the one shown in the drawing. They left him at the school and went back to their jobs, without returning home to make sure the gun was still secured. School administrators neglected to search Ethan’s backpack, where the gun was still hidden."
I repeat ***School administrators neglected to search Ethan’s backpack, where the gun was still hidden."***
If people can be held criminally liable for another based on "reckless indifference," When can we expect the indictment of the school staff?"
https://nypost.com/2022/10/26/4-teens-killed-in-buffalo-crash-while-attempting-tiktok-kia-challenge/
Young mom among 4 teens killed in Buffalo crash while attempting TikTok ‘Kia challenge’
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PO3 Edward Riddle
Maj John Bell - Who buys a certified mentally ill kid a gun in the first place? And why is it up to the school administrators to search his backpack for a gun they don't even know anything about?
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Maj John Bell
PO3 Edward Riddle - The entire first part of my response was to show a single point. I'll be more direct about it. Many parents cannot accept that their child is a sociopath or psychopath.
I was an EMT. We had frequent fliers who were there because of their own mental illness or the mental illness of another. More than 50% of those surrounding people who were absolutely blind to the glaringly obvious mental health issues and who absolutely refused to see the problem right in front of their face.
Having seen the signs, was it or was it not part of the school's responsibility to ask the questions "Do you have a gun in the house?" Is that gun secured from the possibility of your son gaining access to it? Given the school's concern that would be basic due diligence.
I was an EMT. We had frequent fliers who were there because of their own mental illness or the mental illness of another. More than 50% of those surrounding people who were absolutely blind to the glaringly obvious mental health issues and who absolutely refused to see the problem right in front of their face.
Having seen the signs, was it or was it not part of the school's responsibility to ask the questions "Do you have a gun in the house?" Is that gun secured from the possibility of your son gaining access to it? Given the school's concern that would be basic due diligence.
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