Posted on Apr 13, 2018
Scoop: White House urged Israel to end Poland Holocaust bill dispute
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This isn't racist KKK David Duke and the vicious Iranian regime holding a convention saying that the Holocaust was a fraud and that the murder of millions of Jews and other undesirables such as gypsies , homosexuals, political dissidents and even Catholic priests didn't happen. This is not as bad as the Turks denying the 1913 genocide of hundreds of thousands of and imprisoning anybody who brings it up in public or discusses it in the media. This law basically says that it's okay to talk about the Holocaust but if you point fingers at polish complicity, you are going to jail. Poland seems to have a sore Papa about it. What are your thoughts?
Scoop: White House urged Israel to end Poland Holocaust bill dispute
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That is interesting LTC (Join to see) that the President Donald Trump administration has urged Israel several times in the last few weeks to try to solve the crisis that erupted with Poland over a controversial law which makes it illegal to attribute crimes committed during the Holocaust to Poland.
Auschwitz/Buchenwald is the most famous death camp in Poland from WWII
1. The Holocaust law carries penalties of up to three years in prison, and is expected to apply to violators outside of Poland as well in the country.
2. Starting April 15th, the Polish constitutional court will be able to give its verdict on the Holocaust bill.
Hopefully the Polish constitutional court will rule that the Holocaust law is unconstitutional.
"A senior official at the Israeli foreign ministry told me: "The Americans made clear they don’t like the Holocaust law, think it is unacceptable and asked the Polish government to fix it. But at the same time they told us Poland is an important U.S. ally, especially in NATO, and also an Israeli ally and therefore there is a need to deal with the crisis carefully and not damage the alliance."
Senior Israeli officials told me the U.S. conveyed their messages in several channels both to the Israeli government and to opposition leaders and asked them to temper their public rhetoric against Poland:
The White House and State Department conveyed messages to Israel's ambassador in Washington, Ron Dermer, and to other diplomats at the Israeli embassy about the importance of relations with Poland. Similar messages were passed from Washington to the Prime Minister's office and the Foreign ministry in Jerusalem.
Vice President Pence met with the head of the Israeli opposition, Itzhak Herzog, on March 5 in Washington and raised the Poland crisis. An Israeli foreign ministry official said Pence asked Herzog to temper his critical statements against the Polish government and help solve the crisis, and Herzog stressed that the bill and the rhetoric about it from the Polish government were highly offensive and unacceptable. Herzog refused to comment for this story, as did the VP's office.
The State Department also asked the Israeli and Polish embassies to co-sponsor an annual Holocaust memorial day ceremony. Officials from both embassies also spoke at the ceremony on Wednesday.
The law:
The Holocaust law carries penalties of up to three years in prison, and is expected to apply to violators outside of Poland as well in the country.
After the uproar in Israel and the U.S., Polish President Andrzej Duda decided to use his authority and ask the constitutional court to review the law. The Polish government gave Israel a commitment not to implement it before the ruling.
Starting April 15th, the Polish constitutional court will be able to give its verdict on the Holocaust bill. Both the Polish ministry of Justice and the Polish human rights ombudsman have provided legal opinions which stress that several parts of the bill were either illegal or unconstitutional.
If the court orders the Polish parliament to review the bill and amend parts of it, that could lead to the end of the crisis with Israel."
FYI Maj William W. "Bill" Price Capt Seid Waddell Capt Tom Brown 1stSgt Eugene Harless MSG Andrew White SFC William Farrell SSgt Robert Marx SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"SCPO Morris Ramsey SGT Michael Thorin SGT (Join to see) SGT Robert George SGT John " Mac " McConnell SP5 Mark Kuzinski SP5 Robert Ruck SP5 Dave (Shotgun) Shockley SPC Margaret Higgins SrA Christopher Wright Maj Marty Hogan
Auschwitz/Buchenwald is the most famous death camp in Poland from WWII
1. The Holocaust law carries penalties of up to three years in prison, and is expected to apply to violators outside of Poland as well in the country.
2. Starting April 15th, the Polish constitutional court will be able to give its verdict on the Holocaust bill.
Hopefully the Polish constitutional court will rule that the Holocaust law is unconstitutional.
"A senior official at the Israeli foreign ministry told me: "The Americans made clear they don’t like the Holocaust law, think it is unacceptable and asked the Polish government to fix it. But at the same time they told us Poland is an important U.S. ally, especially in NATO, and also an Israeli ally and therefore there is a need to deal with the crisis carefully and not damage the alliance."
Senior Israeli officials told me the U.S. conveyed their messages in several channels both to the Israeli government and to opposition leaders and asked them to temper their public rhetoric against Poland:
The White House and State Department conveyed messages to Israel's ambassador in Washington, Ron Dermer, and to other diplomats at the Israeli embassy about the importance of relations with Poland. Similar messages were passed from Washington to the Prime Minister's office and the Foreign ministry in Jerusalem.
Vice President Pence met with the head of the Israeli opposition, Itzhak Herzog, on March 5 in Washington and raised the Poland crisis. An Israeli foreign ministry official said Pence asked Herzog to temper his critical statements against the Polish government and help solve the crisis, and Herzog stressed that the bill and the rhetoric about it from the Polish government were highly offensive and unacceptable. Herzog refused to comment for this story, as did the VP's office.
The State Department also asked the Israeli and Polish embassies to co-sponsor an annual Holocaust memorial day ceremony. Officials from both embassies also spoke at the ceremony on Wednesday.
The law:
The Holocaust law carries penalties of up to three years in prison, and is expected to apply to violators outside of Poland as well in the country.
After the uproar in Israel and the U.S., Polish President Andrzej Duda decided to use his authority and ask the constitutional court to review the law. The Polish government gave Israel a commitment not to implement it before the ruling.
Starting April 15th, the Polish constitutional court will be able to give its verdict on the Holocaust bill. Both the Polish ministry of Justice and the Polish human rights ombudsman have provided legal opinions which stress that several parts of the bill were either illegal or unconstitutional.
If the court orders the Polish parliament to review the bill and amend parts of it, that could lead to the end of the crisis with Israel."
FYI Maj William W. "Bill" Price Capt Seid Waddell Capt Tom Brown 1stSgt Eugene Harless MSG Andrew White SFC William Farrell SSgt Robert Marx SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"SCPO Morris Ramsey SGT Michael Thorin SGT (Join to see) SGT Robert George SGT John " Mac " McConnell SP5 Mark Kuzinski SP5 Robert Ruck SP5 Dave (Shotgun) Shockley SPC Margaret Higgins SrA Christopher Wright Maj Marty Hogan
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Correction to my story... the Turks denying that they killed hundreds of thousands of Armenians when we know for damn sure they did!
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Denying complicity in the crimes of the Holocaust is like a gateway drug. It will lead to more egregious crimes. Following WWII, Christian Poles refused to allow Holocaust survivors to return. In effect, they extended the Holocaust and denying this historical fact can only serve to insure future misbehavior
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This is a little bit off topic dot-dot It's interesting that when Israel was declaring independence and the United States of preventing Israel from buying Weapons Systems that Austria or some nearby former access country still had a me-109 Factory and Israel bought a few of those aircraft, disassembled them and assembled them into working planes and used them to stop the initial assault on Israel. Those three me-109s scared the Arab armies and made them dig in instead of invade. The pilots even still had German Nazi Aviation uniforms.
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