Posted on Jun 4, 2022
The Left Wants to Repeal the Second Amendment - The American Conservative
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CW3 Harvey K.
CW3 Harvey K. - Remember --- the gun laws requiring registration of gun owners were enacted under the Weimar Republic, "for the safety of German society". That (assumed) benevolent law was the tool that gave the Nazis the information needed to know who was supposed to turn in a gun (any Jew) and any one who did not turn in that gun would suffer.
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Maj John Bell
MSG Stan Hutchison - You tell me where I go wrong.
1) The Weimar Republic was in power in Germany BEFORE the Nazis came to power.
2) Under the Weimar Republic,
-There were strict firearm control laws.
-Very few Germans owned firearms.
-Those that did own firearms, were required to register them with the government.
-Many of the most common calibers of rifles, shotguns and pistols were required to be kept in police armories or sporting clubs.
-Firearms stored in those armories and sporting clubs could not be signed out without prior authorization. Records of sign-in and sign-out were kept.
3) When the Nazis came to power, the loosening of the firearms regulations applied ONLY to members of the military and the NAZI party.
4) The firearm registries were used to disarm those Germans who were not members of the military or the Nazi party, particularly political opponents. Armed Jews, homosexuals, communists, Slavic minorities and gypsies were not present and well-organized in large enough numbers to pose more than a symbolic threat when the Nazi's came to power.
If I'm not wrong, what is your point?
The 2nd Amendment does not exist to protect us from the government we have now, unless and until that government, or ANY OTHER force becomes an enemy of the free state. Had the population of pre-Nazi Germany been armed and their rights protected by something akin to the 2nd amendment, perhaps the Nazi takeover and thus WWII would have been still born. But we will never know, will we?
1) The Weimar Republic was in power in Germany BEFORE the Nazis came to power.
2) Under the Weimar Republic,
-There were strict firearm control laws.
-Very few Germans owned firearms.
-Those that did own firearms, were required to register them with the government.
-Many of the most common calibers of rifles, shotguns and pistols were required to be kept in police armories or sporting clubs.
-Firearms stored in those armories and sporting clubs could not be signed out without prior authorization. Records of sign-in and sign-out were kept.
3) When the Nazis came to power, the loosening of the firearms regulations applied ONLY to members of the military and the NAZI party.
4) The firearm registries were used to disarm those Germans who were not members of the military or the Nazi party, particularly political opponents. Armed Jews, homosexuals, communists, Slavic minorities and gypsies were not present and well-organized in large enough numbers to pose more than a symbolic threat when the Nazi's came to power.
If I'm not wrong, what is your point?
The 2nd Amendment does not exist to protect us from the government we have now, unless and until that government, or ANY OTHER force becomes an enemy of the free state. Had the population of pre-Nazi Germany been armed and their rights protected by something akin to the 2nd amendment, perhaps the Nazi takeover and thus WWII would have been still born. But we will never know, will we?
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MSG Stan Hutchison
Maj John Bell - I can agree with your supposition, though there was not enough opposition to the Nazis to prevent them doing as they wished. Most Germans at the time were more concerned with their own private lives, the economy, and political stability, and would not have envisioned what the Nazis would do.
The Jews were less than 0.75% of the German population, an insufficient number to have withstood the Nazis even with firearms.
My point on this is all the propaganda using the Nazis as a reason for an armed population is misleading at a minimum.
The Jews were less than 0.75% of the German population, an insufficient number to have withstood the Nazis even with firearms.
My point on this is all the propaganda using the Nazis as a reason for an armed population is misleading at a minimum.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
Walko, if you insist on making personal attacks on me, at least have the balls to unblock me so I can respond to your assine comments directly.
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