Posted on Jan 4, 2019
Trump's transgender military ban can stand, federal appeals court rules
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Thank you my friend SSG(P) (Join to see) for making us aware that on Friday, January 4, 2019 the Washington Post reported that the "U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit said, “The District Court made an erroneous finding that the [administration’s policy] was the equivalent of a blanket ban on transgender service,”
To be honest I hope the U.S. Supreme Court will take up the three separate cases and rule that the “judges must give deference to military leaders when it comes to policy decisions about standards for service.”
I posted the first several paragraphs of the article below:
"While the ruling is in the Trump Administration’s favor and lifts an injunction that blocked the ban, no changes will take immediate effect, as there are three cases in other courts currently challenging the transgender ban. In the meantime, while there are legal challenges to the ban, the order cannot go into effect.
Regarding Trump’s ban on transgender service members, the appeals judges pointed out that “judges must give deference to military leaders when it comes to policy decisions about standards for service,” the Washington Post noted.
The administration in March issued a request to the Supreme Court to hear cases involving the transgender military ban.
Solicitor General Noel Francisco had submitted the petitions to the Supreme Court, requesting that they bypass the appeals court to step in and hear the three cases, citing the detriment of nationwide rulings wrongly imposed by lower courts, CNN had reported.
Trump in July 2017 had sent a series of tweets declaring that he was blocking transgender troops from the military, and that they could not serve “in any capacity.”
What do you think? LTC Stephen C. LTC (Join to see) Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Lt Col Charlie Brown Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. "Bill" Price Maj Marty Hogan SCPO Morris Ramsey SGT Mark Halmrast Sgt Randy Wilber Sgt John H. SGT Gregory Lawritson CPL Dave Hoover SPC Margaret Higgins SSgt Brian Brakke 1stSgt Eugene Harless CPT Scott Sharon SSG William Jones
To be honest I hope the U.S. Supreme Court will take up the three separate cases and rule that the “judges must give deference to military leaders when it comes to policy decisions about standards for service.”
I posted the first several paragraphs of the article below:
"While the ruling is in the Trump Administration’s favor and lifts an injunction that blocked the ban, no changes will take immediate effect, as there are three cases in other courts currently challenging the transgender ban. In the meantime, while there are legal challenges to the ban, the order cannot go into effect.
Regarding Trump’s ban on transgender service members, the appeals judges pointed out that “judges must give deference to military leaders when it comes to policy decisions about standards for service,” the Washington Post noted.
The administration in March issued a request to the Supreme Court to hear cases involving the transgender military ban.
Solicitor General Noel Francisco had submitted the petitions to the Supreme Court, requesting that they bypass the appeals court to step in and hear the three cases, citing the detriment of nationwide rulings wrongly imposed by lower courts, CNN had reported.
Trump in July 2017 had sent a series of tweets declaring that he was blocking transgender troops from the military, and that they could not serve “in any capacity.”
What do you think? LTC Stephen C. LTC (Join to see) Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Lt Col Charlie Brown Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. "Bill" Price Maj Marty Hogan SCPO Morris Ramsey SGT Mark Halmrast Sgt Randy Wilber Sgt John H. SGT Gregory Lawritson CPL Dave Hoover SPC Margaret Higgins SSgt Brian Brakke 1stSgt Eugene Harless CPT Scott Sharon SSG William Jones
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Capt Jeff S.
Deference SHOULD be given to military leaders -- especially considering that they are held to much higher standards of conduct than members of Congress, and they are far and away more qualified to determine what policies are best to meet the challenges they face as military leaders. Congress should task them and give them money and conduct reasonable oversight to make sure it is being spent appropriately... and beyond that should leave it up to the military leaders to train and equip our armed forces and to conduct operations in support of stated objectives.
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Another no shit moment. If you are unsure about your biological sex and/or want surgery to change it, the armed forces is not for you. We exclude people for far less. It is a free country to be whatever you like. Serving in the armed forces is not a right.
https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/disqualifiers-medical-conditions.html
https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/disqualifiers-medical-conditions.html
Medical Conditions That Can Keep You From Joining the Military
These standards generally apply to all branches of the military. None of them are automatic disqualifiers, just red flags.
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This is a national security matter. We need to maintain physical and mental standards for serving in the military. Is someone is overweight, has illnesses that are problematic for serving or deploying we need to do the best thing to maintain readiness and not to support an opinion of social justice. Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness that should be resolved in some way before military service. The treatment or doing a gender transformation is medically intensive and the dollar cost should not be carried by the taxpayers and definitely the impact of readiness should not be placed on the military. The hormonal treatments and accommodations do not fit worldwide deploy-ability.
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
My thoughts exactly. I'm told however, that apparently Gender Dysphoria is no longer considered a mental illness.
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MSG Mitch Dowler
SSG(P) (Join to see) - then zero money would be spent on treatment and it is lifestyle choice.
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