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The Army refused to allow me to marry before I was21 without parental permission, they allowed nothing for my wife or child. I supported the family on the economy on $60 a month. I wound up re-enlisting and turning 21. My wife and son came to America but I was sent to Vietnam. No one took care of them and there was no base nearby. It took me 25 years to win my retirement but now we use it for whatever it is worth.
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand
My dad was in Korea and was on the Yalu River. He made E-8 in 2 years and got to deal with a lot of what you talked about. He told me about the marriage problems. It was a mess for a long-long time. I hope you and your wife are still going strong.
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SSG Edward Tilton
SFC Randy Hellenbrand - the Yalu River is the Border between North Korea and China. If he was there, he wasn’t there long
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SSG Edward Tilton
The Imjim runs into the Han River on today’s DMZ. MacLane Tilton was there with the Marines in 1871
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PO3 Aaron Hassay The majority of Vietnam Veterans were not like this... enlisted or drafted... from one who was there.
"Reports throughout the conflict were rampant with allegations of maladaptive behaviors to stress to include drug and alcohol abuse, fratricide, unethical battlefield behaviors, and numerous unpro- fessional behaviors within the local village communities."
"Reports throughout the conflict were rampant with allegations of maladaptive behaviors to stress to include drug and alcohol abuse, fratricide, unethical battlefield behaviors, and numerous unpro- fessional behaviors within the local village communities."
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The biggest problem with this process is a lack of standards and expectations. The US military uses the principles of war to fight wars, but what principles do we follow to help SMs who need mental health help?
I think this condition is stupid. Units have Mission Essential Task Lists (METL) they have to track and report on. METL are the core tasks that a unit must be able to accomplish to be a viable unit. I will make up METL for a tank unit:
- Conduct movement to contact.
- Defend.
- Offense.
- Maneuver.
- Maintenance.
- Resupply.
What is the METL for behavioral health for the soldiers, units, mental health, and the army?
I think this condition is stupid. Units have Mission Essential Task Lists (METL) they have to track and report on. METL are the core tasks that a unit must be able to accomplish to be a viable unit. I will make up METL for a tank unit:
- Conduct movement to contact.
- Defend.
- Offense.
- Maneuver.
- Maintenance.
- Resupply.
What is the METL for behavioral health for the soldiers, units, mental health, and the army?
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
I have had to deal with this in my va and bcnr battle. Basically you have 2 sets of documents. One shows your evals. You pass them all. But one thing is missing. Your medical records. In the other that is never referenced in the evaluation you see medical issues spine musculoskeletal and psych developing and no medical care being rendered.
But as long as you are passing evals you are fit for duty.
You as the SM may not even realize what is in your medical record.
You are to stressed and focused on your operational and occupational standards
I believe a Navy Guided Missle Frigate and a Army Tank would have similar stress.
You may want to investigate DOD Term COSC and COSR
The Navy has a very good COSC Command.
It I believe is newer command created in 2008 by Captain Hammer.
When you join you do not make a contract that you can never have a medical issue.
It is almost expected you will have a stress response
But as long as you are passing evals you are fit for duty.
You as the SM may not even realize what is in your medical record.
You are to stressed and focused on your operational and occupational standards
I believe a Navy Guided Missle Frigate and a Army Tank would have similar stress.
You may want to investigate DOD Term COSC and COSR
The Navy has a very good COSC Command.
It I believe is newer command created in 2008 by Captain Hammer.
When you join you do not make a contract that you can never have a medical issue.
It is almost expected you will have a stress response
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
Combat and Operational Stress Control (COSC) efforts seek to minimize the impact of stress on service members’ physical, psychological, behavioral, and social health as early as possible in order to promote mission readiness, increase individual and unit resilience, and enhance mission performance. Each service has a COSC program to prevent, identify and manage combat and operational stress reactions (COSRs) within units, including all the...
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MAJ Ken Landgren
PO3 Aaron Hassay - I am going to boil down the concept of taking care of PTSD soldiers from the army perspective. I will list the phases soldiers with PTSD experience:
- What happens when a soldier gets PTSD on a deployment or due to trauma?
- We need to screen returning soldiers better for PTSD.
- They must be diagnosed properly.
- Is a WTU available for the soldiers?
- How do unit leaders approach the PTSD problem? This varies tremendously by units.
- How do the units treat and support the soldiers? Some units do not support the soldiers.
- Why do we not have a comprehensive treatment plan from start to medical discharge?
- Do all the mental health professionals really understand how to heal soldiers?
- In worst cases are inpatient facilities available?
- If a soldier with PTSD gets a DUI should the soldier be kicked out or medically chaptered?
- There really are no resources for the spouses.
These are just some of things we need to address.
- What happens when a soldier gets PTSD on a deployment or due to trauma?
- We need to screen returning soldiers better for PTSD.
- They must be diagnosed properly.
- Is a WTU available for the soldiers?
- How do unit leaders approach the PTSD problem? This varies tremendously by units.
- How do the units treat and support the soldiers? Some units do not support the soldiers.
- Why do we not have a comprehensive treatment plan from start to medical discharge?
- Do all the mental health professionals really understand how to heal soldiers?
- In worst cases are inpatient facilities available?
- If a soldier with PTSD gets a DUI should the soldier be kicked out or medically chaptered?
- There really are no resources for the spouses.
These are just some of things we need to address.
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