Posted on Dec 7, 2014
LTC Jason Strickland
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It's time to sound off on this latest question from Congress.
Starting next year, the Pentagon may have to justify to Congress the number of enlisted aides the services' admirals and generals keep in attendance.
A provision of the 2015 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) mandates that the defense secretary report to Congress each year the number of enlisted aides and "[justify], on a billet-by-billet basis, the authorization and assignment of each enlisted aide to each general officer and flag officer position.''

Most of us have never been an aide (either as enlisted or officer), but I would appreciate hearing what others think.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/12/05/congress-orders-dod-to-justify-enlisted-aides-generals-admirals.html?ESRC=todayinmil.sm
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I would say when Congress can justify their hill staffers then the Admirals and Generals can justify enlisted aides. Wow!
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LTC Jason Strickland
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PV2 (Join to see) - you don't mince words! Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Thank you Sir. Working in DC I see it first hand. Marines having to be on call at a local hotel to drive freshmen senators around, 8 staffers for a freshman senator is ridiculous! Not every senator has that many but at least 4. Give me a break!
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SMSgt Judy Hickman
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I agree 100%, but at the same time I currently have to justify my career fields end strength. So why shouldn't general's have to justify their need for enlisted aides? Perhaps there shouldn't be enlisted aides and these positions become GS? Wouldn't we rather have our enlisted in their trained specialty and deploying in this trained specialty vs. not deploying for a 4 year period?
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LTC Jason Strickland Sir, I have a few officer friends that are Aides to a COCOM CCDR, and from what they tell me, the way Flag/General Officers employ their aides can vary widely. I've heard of a 4 star General from a service that will remain nameless requiring his enlisted aides to fly ahead of him, check into the hotel room and unpack his suitcase into the dressers for him, then stay after him and pack it up, he would also send aides (oficers and enlisted) to pick up dry cleaning and to fetch barbers to come to his office to cut his hair (then to clean up after). The 4 star general for which my friends work, on the other hand, uses his officer aides principally as trip planners. They're given wide authority trust and responsibility, alternating turns on planning his upcoming travel including timing, logistics and calendar for his entire trip. He travels so frequently (necessarily-to supervise and perform KLE's) that while one is executing a trip the other is planning the next. He's a Marine (Ill claim that one for my service) and he picks up his own dry cleaning and goes down to the barber himself. And he also PTs-when his aides build in enough time in his schedule for it. He imbues them with such trust and confidence, if they scheduled him a 20 hour day, he'd execute it, trusting they did everything they could to make the mission work.

I'd say like most things, it depends on the quality of the individual.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Bullshit flag
Who does this guy think he is? Patton had an aide, a driver and a chief of staff and that was while he was fighting a war. I'm sure he had a few more folks off the books but SHEESH! Wait for it, wait for it... OH, it's been thrown...
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Capt Richard I P.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca Sir, out of curiosity: was it thrown on the first: nameless serviced officer? Or the second-Marine? Both have a similar number of aides, they just have employed them differently.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Capt Richard I P., on the first. Sorry didn't mean to confuse that. The Marine GO seems to be doing it the right way. When I was in Somalia and our Division commander came over, it was more like the first one. He came with all his creature comforts, had to have bottled water for his coffee while we were drinking wretched ROPU sludge, etc.
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Capt Richard I P.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca No worries, Sir, just wanted to be sure. The essence of leadership is astoundingly simple, and evidently too difficult for most to manage well: Set the Example.
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SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS
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LTC Jason Strickland Sir the value of an enlisted aid to a General Officer, while different from that of an Officer Aid, is still quite valuable. I met the enlisted aid to Admiral Mullen when he was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he was a Master Chief Petty Officer and was responsible for ensuring the support services such as uniforms, billets, food etc were taken care of. At the level where enlisted aids are assigned these roles are critical. No one wants to see a General or Flag Officer whose uniform is wrong, because lets face it, they have many things to do and an order of importance must be established.

While budgets are important, more important is the professionalism of our military. At some point in balancing the budget I am hopeful our elected leaders will begin to examine the cost savings versus long term damage done to the American fighting forces.
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LTC Jason Strickland
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SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS, you've stated the case very well!
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I think this is just one of those, "check the box" items to make it seem Congress is providing some real oversite on the military; things like this take the eye off of things like BRAC base closures; downsizing of personnel; unit cuts etc. Though it doesn't work for those like us on RP and other "military mindset and think" groups...it does distract the majority and makes them believe that Congress is hard at work trying to cut military spending for the liberal minded voters out there.

To me, it's a waste of the already limited work days that Congress has planned for next year. Busy work makes one seem busy, when in reality, not accomplishing a damn thing.
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