Posted on May 9, 2020
Can the VA refuse to treat a 100% service-connected veteran citing their case as "too complex," and also refuse to outsource them for care?
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I have a pretty 'complicated' medical case but the VA continues to refuse at times to even consult with me despite internal VA referrals for the consults. They also refuse to refer me to anyone who possibly CAN help-- or the Mission Act options don't have any providers for the care needed within hours of me. Then they refuse to cover many of the meds that outside specialists suggest, costing me >$3,000 per year out-of-pocket. Is this OK at any level and would anyone have any suggestions for how to get the needed care? This way preceeded COVID-19 issues but continues despite it. I've been told the doctors won't even agree to a telehealth or video health consult at the VA across a few departments and programs. I'd already involved a senator's office a few years back and have made almost no progress. Help, please?
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SSgt Lisa J. Markland I know it's sonds a little crazy but send the White House a letter with all your complaints. It won't make it to the POTUS but he has a staff just for this. I was fighting the VA for a very complex lumbar back surgery and they kept denying it because of the very large amount of money it costs. Some guy at the VA Clinic told me that he had a simular problem and he wrote POTUS. It took him 6 months for a response but it was a great response The White House team sent a letter to his VA Clinic and told them to get it done!! I sent my letter with all that needed to be done and even a letter from the doctor telling them that I've already had 8 lumbar surgeries and will have more if not done correctly with this new methode using stem cells in cages screwed right to the vertabe 4 levels. On x-ray it looks like a roller coster, it's been just over a year since the surgery was done and the pain was gone when I came to in recovery. It worked so well the VA did my cervical surgery with the stem cells, I needed 4 levels but the VA thinks they know more that the surgeon that did it. I had that one done while waiting for lumbar approval and it was great but my doctor kept telling them I will need another surgery in about 18 months but the VA said NO!!! Well I'm now post-op 1.5 months and so far it's been great. I had this surgery during the corona-19 virus, that scared me more than the surgery itself. PLEASE give it a try, send to 1600 Pennsulvania. I sent mine to POTUS (spelled out) instead of The White House and mine took 9 months until I got a call one day from my VA clinic asking me to please come in as soon as possible to the VA clinic and go to the administraition office. I thought I had done something wrong and was probley in trouble because that's the way my luck is. MURPHY'S LAW and all that. When I got there and gave them my name I was sitting down getting ready for the usual hour wait but before my butt hit the seat thay called me back and told me that The White House has over ridden the VA denial and my auth forms were there and the doctor also got his the next day. Give it a shot you have nothing to lose. Good luck, I'll be praying for you.
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MSG Ron Radar
MSgt George Murray - Except that they DON'T act the same for every Vet ! They seem to bounce between whatever political party is in charge at the time . Good Luck !
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
LtCol Bruce Janis -
For Over 2 Decades Our North Las Vegas VA Has Made So Many Mistakes, Such As
Wrong Diagnose ~ Undiagnosed Illness ~ Wrong Prescriptions ~ Which Among Other Things Which Required Emergency Surgery And A MONTH Of Hospitalization. And Here's Something I Happen To Think About Later On ~ Of The Month In Hospital, I Spent 2 Weeks At The VA, Then Was Transferred To The University Medical Center For The Remaining Days, That's How Sick I Was; One Of The ER Staff Told Me I Was Fortunate To Be Alive Because Had I Not Been Brough In When I Was, I'd Not Lived Through The Night Because I Had A Liver Infection Which Spread Throughout My Body & Had Entered My Brain ~ I Was Not Aware Of Going To The VA, Having Had Surgery Or Anything Else Until The Following Day When I Was Awoken By One Of The Doctors & Was Told What Had Happened. ~~~ As I Thought About The Sequence Of Events And Concluded (Right Or Wrong) I Was Sent To UMC Because, IF I Died It Would NOT Be On The VA's Records ~ But On That Of The University Medical Center. VA = "Not Our Fault"
For Over 2 Decades Our North Las Vegas VA Has Made So Many Mistakes, Such As
Wrong Diagnose ~ Undiagnosed Illness ~ Wrong Prescriptions ~ Which Among Other Things Which Required Emergency Surgery And A MONTH Of Hospitalization. And Here's Something I Happen To Think About Later On ~ Of The Month In Hospital, I Spent 2 Weeks At The VA, Then Was Transferred To The University Medical Center For The Remaining Days, That's How Sick I Was; One Of The ER Staff Told Me I Was Fortunate To Be Alive Because Had I Not Been Brough In When I Was, I'd Not Lived Through The Night Because I Had A Liver Infection Which Spread Throughout My Body & Had Entered My Brain ~ I Was Not Aware Of Going To The VA, Having Had Surgery Or Anything Else Until The Following Day When I Was Awoken By One Of The Doctors & Was Told What Had Happened. ~~~ As I Thought About The Sequence Of Events And Concluded (Right Or Wrong) I Was Sent To UMC Because, IF I Died It Would NOT Be On The VA's Records ~ But On That Of The University Medical Center. VA = "Not Our Fault"
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LtCol Bruce Janis
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney - sounds horrific…glad you are still with us, though. Sempervfi
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
LtCol Bruce Janis -
And Those Were Just A Couple. It Began With My Very First Appointment When I Was Misdiagnosed As Being Bi-Polar And Medicated Accordingly, For Multiple YEARS I Was A Basket Case, In & Out Of The ER So Often, When I Came Through The Doors They Knew Me By Name. It Took About 9 Years Before ONE Dr. Finally Listed To What I Had To Say ~ Dr. Grey, My Life Saver ~ Said "You're Not Bipolar"~ And Took Me Off All Related Medications ~~ I'M CURED ~~ The End
~~ But Due To Their Multiple Errors I Lost Over 50% Of My Adult Life.~~ And I Remain Disabled. ~ Being Driven Insane Is Unforgivable, There Are NO Excuses.
I Paid The Price For Their Mistakes ~ And I Never Received As Much As An Apology.
And Those Were Just A Couple. It Began With My Very First Appointment When I Was Misdiagnosed As Being Bi-Polar And Medicated Accordingly, For Multiple YEARS I Was A Basket Case, In & Out Of The ER So Often, When I Came Through The Doors They Knew Me By Name. It Took About 9 Years Before ONE Dr. Finally Listed To What I Had To Say ~ Dr. Grey, My Life Saver ~ Said "You're Not Bipolar"~ And Took Me Off All Related Medications ~~ I'M CURED ~~ The End
~~ But Due To Their Multiple Errors I Lost Over 50% Of My Adult Life.~~ And I Remain Disabled. ~ Being Driven Insane Is Unforgivable, There Are NO Excuses.
I Paid The Price For Their Mistakes ~ And I Never Received As Much As An Apology.
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VA's refusal isn't new but this level is disconcerting. Since a Senator has been involved and results aren't good, that leaves only one choice. Engage an attorney specializing VA issues.
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SFC Domingo M.
Last June, I had a 12-hour open-heart procedure at the UC Hospital in Cincinnati. Mine was farmed out because they said they seldom do them at the VA. They even covered six weeks of rehab at a second hospital. So far, so good. I get more care at times than I really ask for and have a wonderful PCP. I was rated at 90% based on my history and have no complaints what-so-ever. My situation was backed up by my health records. I retired in 1990 and didn't apply for disability until 2017 at my wife's urging. I missed out on 27 years of care and pay. Good luck and I hope someone helps you find the right solution.
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SP6 Richard Kellar
SPC Matt Ovaska - Been going to the VA for 50 years. I have gotten that letter about missing an appointment when I didn't. Aside from that I have been treated far better than my mother might have and at 75 I am ready for combat still thanks to them, something real local with my 3 sons there to referee. Prefer an older guy with some serious handicaps. but nonetheless. I am always polite however. I cannot thank them enough for my longevity.
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Sgt Brett Holdeman
SFC Domingo M. - Cincy VA may have misled you, brother, as the Indy VA has been doing open-heart surgeries for at least the last dozen years. I think Dr Sharp has since retired, but was grooming another fellow to take his place, whose name now escapes me. I'm glad you're recovering well and pray you'll be back to normal soon!
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PO1 Ray Reasy
Sgt Brett Holdeman - He did say that it was a 12-hour surgery, so that may have been a little more complicated than the VA had the experience for. I've had open heart surgery, had a valve replaced, and it didn't take more than an hour. So, 12-hours sounds a whole lot more serious to me.
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SSgt Lisa J. Markland I would recommend going to DAV. Sgt (Join to see) any advice?
https://www.rallypoint.com/organizations/dav-dav-disabled-american-veterans/followers
https://www.rallypoint.com/organizations/dav-dav-disabled-american-veterans/followers
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PO1 Ray Reasy
SrA Cecelia Eareckson - Okay, that changes the landscape quite a bit. I apologize as I was just referring to your first post which was quite vanilla compared to your last post. Re-read that first post and try to read it thorough a fresh set of eyes and you will see where I was coming from.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
PO1 Ray Reasy Perhaps I am not navigating this site properly, but I cannot find that earlier post.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
PO1 Ray Reasy Found it. So, DAV withheld service to a woman veteran in three states, two contact w nationsl, over twenty yesrs, and you think that is vanilla? That’s almost funny. Find one man who got totally ignored to that extent. I will wait.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
LCDR Mike Morrissey oh, please! All reps, VSO, county, etc, are just (mostly) old guys somebody felt sorry for, and gave him an excuse to leave the house a few hours a day. Nobody reviews their work. I am told they do track C&P case apptovsl rates, which is why they will not rep MST cases, a viscious cycle if ever there was one. The VA does not want to pay those, so the reps won’t handle them, instead of advocating for that set if claimants, and so it goes.
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