Posted on Jun 19, 2016
SPC David S.
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Are we intentionally being divided on issues so that politicians can get rich in the process? One side gets lobbied by a group that is pro-'X' while the other side is lobbied by a group that is anti-'X' that results in nothing more than raising funds for future campaign efforts.

https://ballotpedia.org/Changes_in_Net_Worth_of_U.S._Senators_and_Representatives_(Personal_Gain_Index)
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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I'm a firm believer we're played. And it's the big money and power behind the curtains pulling the strings who decides the elections. This year is a good case in point. Both Dem and Rep had some fantastic people running. And yet the ones with the best ideas, most practical way of handling things and such were ousted and we were left with the choice we got.
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SPC David S.
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Yes I think the cat got out of the bag with this election -
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Put your money to the Red Cross, the United Way, your local religious charity or charities that help victims worldwide instead of some PAC that gets money from corporations already. Here is the list from the Canadian and US governments. I always vote no on my tax return when Im asked about the Presidential Campaign Fund selection.
1. We have had severe flooding in Texas
2. Fires in many states.
3. 80k Canadians displaced from Fort McMurray Forest Fire and 20% of the city was burned to the ground and many of you saw the fires on tv.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9rdkR4BlpY
A.Chairities Listing by Canadian Government: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/chrts-gvng/lstngs/menu-eng.html
B.IRS listing of Charities: https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/organizations-eligible-to-receive-tax-deductible-charitable-contributions

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SPC David S.
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I agree better use of the dollar vote.
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SPC David S. - I also did not mention Catholic Charities and Muslims can see if their Muslim Charity is legit or funnels money to Hezbollah/Hamas or to ISIL. I left the list here for those to check on.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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I think we are being gamed by a defective educational system that leads us to selecting people like the current crop of candidates.
How did it come to pass that the two least liked politicians in either Party were chosen in the primaries?
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SSgt Christopher Brose
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SCPO (Join to see) You are absolutely right about that.

Capt Seid Waddell What a depressing video. One could only hope these people saw themselves in it later and felt some shame.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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SSgt Christopher Brose, probably not; these people are running on emotions rather than reasoning from facts. Did you notice that woman at time hack 9:43 that said she wasn't as informed as she thought she was, but she still wouldn't change her vote?

People cannot be reasoned out of positions that reason had no part in forming.
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SPC David S.
SPC David S.
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I think identity politics are being used to segregate at inflame issues to divide rather than unit - which is what a good leader's platform would be based on unity - strength in unity. A house divided is going to fast track America right into the dink.
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Are we being gamed by the political system?
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Yes we are and we have been for a very long time. We underestimate the part the media plays in it also. Imagine how many would be unemployed in all forms of media if they strictly reported the facts and allowed us to arrive at our own conclusions. Instead they massage and spin it until only the most ardent can determine what the real story is. Many have claimed that 6 corporations hold 90% of media but that is debatable. It's not debatable that this handful do have a huge impact on molding public opinion in ways that are good for their corporate interests.

http://memepoliceman.com/corporate-media-control/
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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SPC David S. I think our political system has been playing the average American System for a long time now. It's big money, big business, big power, and big relationships that lead to big favors. Now some might say that is how we get things done, but what about all the people living on entitlements instead of working to make this country strong, what about all the homeless, what about the poverty stricken, what about the starving children and families, what about families that use to be able to afford healthcare and can't now because of politics and backroom deals, what about those that still don't have healthcare, what about the problems in our inner cities with violence and gangs, and what about those that can't find work because our big businesses have moved their plants overseas for cheaper labor costs and lessor safety conditions. We've been played and will continued to be played under this current form of government. I'm not saying that we change the framework of our government. I believe that our forefathers of this nation really cared and had a purpose, but we need to overhaul it "big time" and clean out the corruption, the power hungry, the greedy, those that only care about themselves, the election systems, and put the people back at the forefront of deciding who is charge, not some system that only feeds the wealthy and pwoerful;

**so it's a "Government of the people, by the people, for the people, that shall not perish from the Earth."**
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SPC David S.
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Great response sir
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Capt Tom Brown
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Over the years I have come to believe that getting rich through graft, illegal contributions etc is not the main purpose for getting into politics. At one point we had the mayor of Chicago who was later shown to be pretty crooked, but you don't hear so much of that anymore. I feel that nowadays the main abuse of political figures is the accumulation and misuse of power to implement their own ideological agenda. Having so much stroke must be like a drug. In TX Rick Perry was gov for 12 years and wielded immense power through running the executive branch, appointments to boards, commissions, universities and agencies, all with toadies to implement his political ideas. He didn't amount to much outside of TX but was a big influence around here.
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SGT James Hammons
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Some people are falling for the Bull that comes out of Washington but if people are having a hard time seeing clearly the danger of Big Government. Dems have become to far left and are Anti-American.
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SPC David S.
SPC David S.
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I'd say they're more socialist than democratic - but yes very anti-American
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PO3 Donald Murphy
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You're both wrong. BOTH PARTIES are anti-American unless you can come up with some proof otherwise. Both parties fail to vote their core principles which is why you have all your breakaway parties.
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The political machinery in this country has morphed a thousand times over the centuries as singular individuals have put their mark on it, directly or indirectly. As I have studied political science over the years, I, and thousands more, have rightfully concluded that, since the advent of FDR, the entity known as Washington has been continually invaded by people of great wealth and social influence seeking public office and turning it into a lifelong career. With that has the kind of morale corruption and decadence not seen before Congress or the White House. An evermore technologically advanced and an evermore liberally skewed Media has created the Perfect Storm we now see and, most of America, reviles. Are we being gamed? Damn right we are, and we let it happen, consciously or sub-consciously. It is time to invoke Article V of our Constitution. NOW. Tomorrow will be years too late.
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SSgt Christopher Brose
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There was nothing in that stat-dump that indicated where any increase in wealth came from. I think cynicism is an underrated virtue, but it's ill-placed here. Congresspeople can't take money directly from lobbyists or campaign funds, not legally anyway, so attributing all those increases in income to lobbyists or campaign financing is basically saying they are all criminals. Some of them might in fact be criminals, but increases in income are not proof of it.

Nobody is intentionally dividing us on issues. We divide ourselves on issues.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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Your last sentence is most important, the Clinton CGI shows how it's done.
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SPC David S.
SPC David S.
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Yes people have an opinion yet politics helps in shaping such opinions as to lure the lobbyist. They are exploiting our divergence on topics for their benefit. As well there only address topics where there is money to me made - energy, guns, medical/insurance, wall-street and so on. You will never see a politician pick up an issue with no money behind it. I bet if we demanded laws that cut out lobbying and campaign contributions you would see the exit of many career politicians.
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SSgt Christopher Brose
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And then only rich people would be able to run for office. Is that what you want?
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SPC David S.
SPC David S.
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Yes its easy to set up a front and have the money dump into it - The Cayman's is just one place. As to only having rich run not sure what the fix is as its easy to hide the money.
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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SPC David S. great read and share!
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