Posted on Oct 14, 2015
LTC Stephen F.
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The President of the United States (POTUS) is also the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United State. As the holder of the highest office in the land the POTUS is to be honored officially in all public appearances and affairs of state. One definition of honor is highly respected.
Respect may be defined as a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements. In this sense as military members and veterans and others we clearly understand respect for the holder of an office. We respect those in authority over us; but, experience will help us respect them deeper or less depending on their performance.
As a Christian I respect everybody. Practically I struggle with respecting some people in my mind and I need to ask God's help to help me respect them.
Concurrence with positions taken by the POTUS is another matter entirely. I do not believe we are obligated by our oaths of office to concur with positions or decisions made by the POTUS. Only military service members are required to obey the decisions of the POTUS which affect them. Shout out to SSG Joel Murray for posting the negative version of this question about blatant disrespect.
What are your thoughts? I request that we demonstrate respect for each other in our responses.
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SGT Ben Keen
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The best way to sum this up comes from the mini series "Band of Brothers". In one of the last scenes, then Maj Winters and his former Company Commander CPT Sobel cross paths. Sobel used to out rank Winters but quickly found himself on desk detail while Winters went on to command one of the most historic units in Army history. As Sobal walks about, Winters looks at him and reminds him that we salute the rank NOT the person. The same can be said about public office. While you may not agree with the person's view that is currently holding the seat, the respect for that office is based on the collective of people who have held that seat. The respect isn't solely for the person, its the respect of what that office represents. So yes, we are required to respect the office as military members and that respect should continue as a Veteran.
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CPT Brent Ferguson
CPT Brent Ferguson
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Nice analogy, but if you, (the reader) are currently serving on active duty - PLEASE don't get caught showing disrespect to a superior officer. (Or a former superior officer.) That said, isn't it sad that we have to ask if we HAVE TO respect our current president?

I don't like lawyers or politicians for the most part, I think most are dishonest. To win my respect they must:
1) love the USA
2) be honorable
3) respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
4) hold the lives of our citizens and soldiers in high regard
and 5) practice fiscal responsibility
(*it's hard to believe that someone who holds you in high regard would spend your money frivolously)
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SSgt Alex Robinson
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You many not agree with the man but we should all honor the office
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CPT Brent Ferguson
CPT Brent Ferguson
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I cannot respect a man who removed "defend against all enemies both foreign and domestic" from the oath of citizenship. I will rejoice the day his name is no longer uttered. (*and I know his gestapo will likely read that)
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LTC Stephen F.
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I personally believe we are to honor the POTUS as long as that person is alive. I also believe I need to respect the person who is and those who have been POTUS even if I vehemently disagree with most of their positions. I find no warrant for any obligation to concur with the POTUS.
I have been praying for each President and their spouse since George H.W. Bush was elected as long as they are in office. I pray for our leaders that we may live peaceful and quiet lives.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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In your description of honor, yes I agree just as we honor each other by using the title and showing respect.
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Are we required to honor, respect and generally concur with the POTUS?
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SCPO David Lockwood
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Nothing that I have read rquired veterans to honor and respect POTUS. With that said veterans do respect and honor POTUS because this is what we believe in. We still respect those who are senior to us who are active duty or veterans.
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PV2 Scott Goodpasture
PV2 Scott Goodpasture
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Not me. I don't believe one word that comes out of his mouth. Also why is there so many Muslims in his cabinet? Consider the director of the CIA. Muslim brotherhood. Look it up. What kind of treacherous crap is that anyway? There is in my opinion an enemy within. And he isn't getting any kudos from me
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MAJ Cmoc Oic
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You may not be required to agree, but you are required to promote and enforce all positions so long as they are lawful when in uniform. Once you are a private citizen you cannot undermine the decisions of the POTUS without challenging it in the courts (i.e. on legal grounds), through peaceful protests and appeals to public opinion (i.e. convince others the POTUS is wrong) or through election when the time comes. Other types of resistance constitute rebellion. So no, you are not REQUIRED to agree or to honor the POTUS beyond the matters of formality and protocol (this is also known as decency. you are REQUIRED to act with decency before the President of your country, if for no other reason that as a show of respect to the Constitution that put him there). But you are REQUIRED to act on his decisions: in uniform that means carrying out the will of the state (and therefore POTUS) and out of uniform it means obeying the law of the land as passed by Congress and implemented by the Executive Branch.

As an example, I opposed the Iraq war from day 1. I still think it was an atrocious strategic decision followed by an occupation that should offend the decency of any American. However, when I put on my body armor and locked&loaded at the gate before leading my scout platoon on hundreds of patrols, none of that mattered. I was there to enforce the will of the United States. But I made sure to vote against those who started the war in the first place when the time came and voiced my support for many criticisms of the policy that put us there.
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LTC Professor Of Military Science / Department Chair
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I believe the office and whomever holds the office earns the respect - however, that does not mean one (regardless of active duty status) has to concur with all of their personal views/agenda(s). You can respect the CiC/POTUS office and tactfully disagree with policies.
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CPT Jack Durish
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No one is required to honor and respect the POTUS. Thus, the far more important question is how can anyone serve on active duty if they don't honor and respect their Commander-In-Chief? Obviously, it is a mute question for me. Who would want this cranky old man in their military? However, if I were fit for service and the current President were presiding in the White House, I could not, would not serve under him. I would find other ways to serve my nation more effectively in other ways. Indeed, I do even though not fit for active military service. As a veteran, I do all I can to serve other veterans as well as active duty personnel. I serve my community as an active volunteer. I will respect the office of President, but I will never respect this man.
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SFC James Ballas
SFC James Ballas
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You hit the nail on the head. We were required to respect the office or rank but did not have to respect the person.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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I respect the office deeply and I do. When I see him on TV every night, I want to get sick to my stomach. He passes legislation through executive action and while I respect the office I cannot wait to see him gone.
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PV2 Scott Goodpasture
PV2 Scott Goodpasture
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Retired U.S. Air Force Gen. Tom McInerney, who served as both assistant vice chief of staff and commander in chief of U.S. Air Forces Europe, has surprised interviewers on a radio program by confirming the presence of the Muslim Brotherhood inside the U.S. government.

The Islamic supremacist movement's influence on Washington was reported in "Impeachable Offenses: The Case to Remove Barack Obama from Office" by New York Times bestselling authors Aaron Klein and Brenda J. Elliott.







The book documents that Obama aided the rise to power of Islamic extremist groups in the Middle East as members served on important national security advisory boards.

The book confirms the Obama administration may have exposed national security information through Huma Abedin, Hillary Clinton's deputy chief of staff, who has deep personal and family associations with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Another key figure with Muslim Brotherhood ties is Mohamed Elibiary, a member of the Department of Homeland Security's Advisory Council

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/general-muslim-brotherhood-inside-obama-administration/#ghJibICyXF8qMAE3.99
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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They are liars and destabilizing the world.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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A man after my own stomach!!
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MAJ James Woods
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One would think this be an easy and obvious question but since the topic keeps coming up then I must question the character of our society. Respecting the position of POTUS is no different than respecting your boss cause they sit in a position of authority. One must earn your respect as a person. A person can be a dirtbag but respecting the position of authority is still expected. Disagreeing with the POTUS is a right we all have regardless of respect. I disagree with people I respect all the time. But at no time one should disrespect our leaders in a public forum.
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If we're in a capacity that is bound to the UCMJ, we are required to honor, respect and generally *defer* to the *office* of the POTUS. While we need not have the same feelings toward whoever is filling the office, we absolutely should bite our tongue about that individual on most matters, at least until they are out of office.

Or, as a crusty old LTC said during a deployment of mine, "If I had to say '*President* Clinton,' then you sure as hell have to say '*President* Bush.'" No matter my opinion of our current/last CIC, he is/was the CIC, and the crusty old LTC was dead-on in his assessment.
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