Posted on Feb 11, 2022
Can a corporal in a team leader position have me do corrective action (“smoke” me)? And was I wrong to tell him to eat a bag of dicks?
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We just got a new Corporal who recently reclassed to mortars. He’s highly motivated (hooah), and during a training event, we had a disagreement over how to perform large deflections. He told me to "drop," but the fire mission he was calling would’ve put us outside the safety fan during a live fire and could have potentially caused injuries to other elements participating in the exercise.
Now, I understand and respect his rank, but I’ve been a mortarman longer and currently serve as the Gun 2 gunner. The fact is—he was wrong. He just became an 11C, and when he wouldn’t listen to correction or reason, I told him (admittedly out of frustration) to eat a bag of d***s.
I’m curious to hear what others think—especially when it comes to situations where rank clashes with experience and safety is on the line.
Now, I understand and respect his rank, but I’ve been a mortarman longer and currently serve as the Gun 2 gunner. The fact is—he was wrong. He just became an 11C, and when he wouldn’t listen to correction or reason, I told him (admittedly out of frustration) to eat a bag of d***s.
I’m curious to hear what others think—especially when it comes to situations where rank clashes with experience and safety is on the line.
CPL
Corporal
11C: Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
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Uhmmmm ... well, two wrongs do not make anything right. Personally, I don't believe that in a non-training environment, that any NCO should "drop" anybody. Likewise, your comment that I think was an attempt at being "salty," was in just as much poor taste in any environment other than friendly chop busting among friends or peers.
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A corporal is one rank before a Sergent. if I'm not mistaken. but if he was wrong and can approach him and tell him, he was wrong and point it out why he was wrong. That way he won't do that again, hopefully. But ask him if he would like to learn the correct way.
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SPC Cathy Ann Ouderkirk - Then edit your profile to reflect Specialist instead of Corporal.
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A corporal is considered an NCO and you blatantly disrespect an NCI because you got your feelings hurt. If I was that Corporal, I'd send it up the chain requesting some form of punishment. If you don't like discipline, maybe do the right thing in the first place l, or maybe find your way back to civilian life you snowflake.
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Please respect the rank. During my 20 years, I had a hard time dealing with disrespect to an NCO. I was an NCO just two years in, so had 18 yrs experience dealing this issue. You were doing fine until you told him to “eat a bag of dicks!” Ump ump umpppp!! Mannheim, CCF, or Leavenworth bound!!!
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"Can a corporal in a team leader position have me do corrective action (“smoke” me)? And was I wrong to tell him to eat a bag of dicks?"
Yes, and yes.
Yes, and yes.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
Then Pick Up Those Teeth You Knocked Out
And Hand Them Back To Him In That Same Bag!
~ The Dumb Sumbitch! ~
And Hand Them Back To Him In That Same Bag!
~ The Dumb Sumbitch! ~
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Specialist E-4 and and Corporal E-4 Who is junior in date of rank? As a Marine I didn't have to deal with that difference. As a Junior NCO it is obvious that the corporal is making a lot of mistakes That is not to let the specialist off the hook. A smart corporal would have evaluated his subordinates and learned from them especially from someone who is equal in pay grade. It sounds like some one needs NCO school to me I'd send them both. Not plotting a fire mission correctly can get people killed.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
I'd Have Tio Say: You're Right, And I've Known a Few People Whom Were Even More Rank Than Others ~ A Bunch Of Real Azholes ~
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When I was a corporal in the army yes these new soldiers don’t know what to tell you
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
Along With Years Of Experience
Comes Years Of Thought And Knifing,
THAT'S When Ya Nail The Sumbitch!
Comes Years Of Thought And Knifing,
THAT'S When Ya Nail The Sumbitch!
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300 Spartans in Thermopylae (300 AFPT score) you should have told him to fight you off base, and no matter who wins or who loses you go to the PUB and drink all the fine wine and then become best friends for life.....
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CPL Marcellus Jordan
I was one of the last graduating classes from Harmony Church so I can ABSOLUTELY relate!
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1SG Ernest Stull
I did that and ended up with an art 15 suspended. For kicking the shit out of a CPL. for attitude and disrespect. So, unless you have strong coc I suggest you leave your can of whup ass at home.
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