Posted on Mar 7, 2015
Can you see what is wrong with this ribbon rack?
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Occasionally I will post pictures and ask what's wrong with them. Here is another I recently found online. Can you see what's wrong with this pictures?
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Tons of things are wrong...first the trident looks too small.....the ribbons are all out of order and the campaign star on the OIF campaign ribbon is upside down....and the OEF campaign ribbon should have at least one star. The ribbons are also not centered on the pocket....and the gap between the ribbons and trident looks wrong......
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2 national defense ribbons? Marksmanship ribbons are not next to each other? Real SEALS have BIG SEAL Trident.
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As far as I know Blue is senior to red in Navy/Marine decorations, so the CAR is correct in orientation.
cf https://awards.navy.mil/awards/webbas01.nsf/%28vwWebPage%29/home.htm?OpenDocument
which shows all Navy ribbons
cf https://awards.navy.mil/awards/webbas01.nsf/%28vwWebPage%29/home.htm?OpenDocument
which shows all Navy ribbons
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ribbons don't seem to line up, the trident seems too small. ok so this is suppose to be the Navy, so I don't recognize any of the navy/marine ribbons. I see the pistol and rifle...
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I want to say that buds is for the mess dress uniform. Rack is all out of order:
Should be Silver Star, Joint Service Achievement, Combat Action, Navy Meritorious Unit, Selected Marine Corps, National Defense Service, A'stan Campaign, Irag with bronze star device (right side-up), GWOT Expeditionary, GWOT Service, Navy Overseas, Marine Corps Reserve, Army Overseas, Navy Expert Rifleman, Navy Expert Pistol. Also has duplicate National Defense. Also went 4 wide should be 3. Placement is to high. Also has some lose cables on the pocket; needs to burn those off. Not even close to being real - the marksmanship awards big give away.
Depending on how the conversation went I might award them a jack ass ribbon with a black eye device.
Should be Silver Star, Joint Service Achievement, Combat Action, Navy Meritorious Unit, Selected Marine Corps, National Defense Service, A'stan Campaign, Irag with bronze star device (right side-up), GWOT Expeditionary, GWOT Service, Navy Overseas, Marine Corps Reserve, Army Overseas, Navy Expert Rifleman, Navy Expert Pistol. Also has duplicate National Defense. Also went 4 wide should be 3. Placement is to high. Also has some lose cables on the pocket; needs to burn those off. Not even close to being real - the marksmanship awards big give away.
Depending on how the conversation went I might award them a jack ass ribbon with a black eye device.
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Col Russell Anderson
One other problem is the Selected Marine Corps Reserve ribbon you mentioned. That ribbon has been obsolete since 1965!
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SPC David S.
I thought it was still authorized sir as of SECNAV INSTRUCTION 1650.1H. Regardless me being Army I could tell this was a poser as the marksmanship awards are typically last. I have a number of friends who are Marines so that I saw right away.
http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/SecNavInst%201650.1H.pdf
http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/SecNavInst%201650.1H.pdf
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Col Russell Anderson
It's authorized, if you were in the Reserve between 1945 and 1965. I'm referring to the ribbon he has senior to the Silver Star. The "new" Selected Marine Corps Reserve ribbon is the one he has on the bottom row, first ribbon (inboard).
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A tone wrong... Four ribbons in a row is wrong... Not in proper location on shirt... 2 national defense ribbons instead of star on one.. There's a ton wrong. Seal trident... Etc.
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From the Navy manual on ribbon wear.
1. Manner of Wearing. Ribbons are worn on the service coat or jumper of Service Dress Blue, Dress White, and on the shirt of Service Khaki, E6 and below Service Uniform. Ribbons are not authorized on formal dress, dinner dress, or working uniforms. Wear up to three ribbons in a single row. When more than three ribbons are authorized, wear them in horizontal rows of three each. If ribbons are not in multiples of three, the top row contains the lesser number, and the center of this row sits over the center of the one below it. Wear ribbons without spaces between ribbons or rows of ribbons. Wear ribbons with the lower edge of the bottom row centered 1/4 inch above the left breast pocket and parallel to the deck. To prevent coat lapels from covering ribbons, ribbons may be aligned so the border to wearer's left is aligned with left side of pocket. Rows of ribbons where more than 50% of the ribbon is covered by the coat lapel may contain two ribbons each and be aligned with left border. On Full Dress uniforms, .
1. Manner of Wearing. Ribbons are worn on the service coat or jumper of Service Dress Blue, Dress White, and on the shirt of Service Khaki, E6 and below Service Uniform. Ribbons are not authorized on formal dress, dinner dress, or working uniforms. Wear up to three ribbons in a single row. When more than three ribbons are authorized, wear them in horizontal rows of three each. If ribbons are not in multiples of three, the top row contains the lesser number, and the center of this row sits over the center of the one below it. Wear ribbons without spaces between ribbons or rows of ribbons. Wear ribbons with the lower edge of the bottom row centered 1/4 inch above the left breast pocket and parallel to the deck. To prevent coat lapels from covering ribbons, ribbons may be aligned so the border to wearer's left is aligned with left side of pocket. Rows of ribbons where more than 50% of the ribbon is covered by the coat lapel may contain two ribbons each and be aligned with left border. On Full Dress uniforms, .
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This is a USMC shirt, not a USN shirt - see the collar shape. Marines CAN wear four across...
CPO Norman Mauldin
Unless it's one of the new uniforms the Navy was trying out 10 yrs ago. Article 3602 of Uniform Regs.
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In a word, a lot. To add on to the rest of the comments, I propose an additional question directed to tha navy side of the house. Dress whites and blues has full racks but does khakis have only the top three or can they have a full set as well?
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Should be 3 in a row, resting on but not over the pocket, combination of services medals (several AF medals on Navy uniform), campaign star on Afghanistan medal is upside down.
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Lt Col (Join to see)
The navy places the ribbons 1/4 inch above the pocket parallel with the deck. You are correct the navy only wears 3 per row with exception that if ribbons will be covered by more than 50% they may aligned to the left.
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TSgt David Holman
I wasn't sure about that, but I thought I would at least mention it. I didn't realize until after taking a second look that they were all way out of order, and he had two National Service Defense ribbons
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Obviously the person that is wearing them has no idea about their significance. Must be a wannabe in drag.
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Just a question because I do not know, and I'm curious. This individual has Afghan and Iraqi campiaign medals along with a GWOT-E medal.
As I recall, when the Iraqi and Afghan medals came out, those awarded GWOT-E medals could trade them out one-for-one for the Iraq or Afghanistan medals.
As a strategic airlifter, I was eligible for both the Iraq and Afghanistan medals, but I chose to stick with the GWOT-E because I felt it more accurately reflected my role.
Can someone have all three? Frankly, I don't care as long as it's legal, but I am curious.
As I recall, when the Iraqi and Afghan medals came out, those awarded GWOT-E medals could trade them out one-for-one for the Iraq or Afghanistan medals.
As a strategic airlifter, I was eligible for both the Iraq and Afghanistan medals, but I chose to stick with the GWOT-E because I felt it more accurately reflected my role.
Can someone have all three? Frankly, I don't care as long as it's legal, but I am curious.
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SCPO Joshua I
Also, GWOT-E is still awarded for a number of areas outside Afghanistan and Iraq right now. I think there's talk about re-authorizing either the GWOT-E or ICM for Iraq at the moment, because there's nothing authorized for it right now -- the last campaign for the ICM closed out last year, at least that's what the message I read a couple of weeks ago said.
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PO1 Sharon Walters
I wear Iraq, GWOT-E & GWOT-S. AND have been questioned and challenged on it multiple times because generally speaking if you serve in an area or campaign that authorizes more than 1 of those you have to pick one - you can't wear all 3(for one instance). HOWEVER if you have been in MULTIPLE areas/campaigns or the same multiple times that each instance authorizes you to wear one of them THEN you can wear more than 1 (or all of them if you have been in area/campaign enough times to cover all of them) in essence you pick a different one each time you serve in an eligible area or campaign. In my case I got my GWOT-S aboard ship on cruise, my GWOT-E for being stationed in Bahrain (OEF) and Iraq when my mobile comms unit deployed to Iraq for over a year (I transferred out at 6 months).
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Lt Col (Join to see)
MSgt Jim Pollock yup with multiple deployments you can get all 3. I originally got the Iraq campaign for the 60 overflight rule, ironically I did 120 on the ground at ballad years later. During my second deployment I got the GWOT-E. I never did meet he criteria for OEF, I think I only had about 20 overflights over OEF territory.
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2 NDSMs on different rows to start and I thought there were 2 medals that out ranked the silver star
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Wow... Everything?
It's a miniature trident for one (Hat pin I think). Order of precedence is just wrong, and he has two National Defense ribbons. I don't even know what that first ribbon is, but there's only a few medals that outrank a Silver Star, and I'm pretty sure that isn't a US award.
Bar isn't centered over the pocket. Marksmanship medals aren't next to each other, and CAR is between them... (It's highest ranking Ribbon in the for Navy/USMC).
It's a miniature trident for one (Hat pin I think). Order of precedence is just wrong, and he has two National Defense ribbons. I don't even know what that first ribbon is, but there's only a few medals that outrank a Silver Star, and I'm pretty sure that isn't a US award.
Bar isn't centered over the pocket. Marksmanship medals aren't next to each other, and CAR is between them... (It's highest ranking Ribbon in the for Navy/USMC).
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SPC Brandon "Wheelz" Wheeldon A regulation trident is actually "huge." Most Navy Warfare devices are. The wings are a little over 2 ribbons wide on a full size one.
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