Could I get a waiver for a technical point on the ASVAB?

SGM Bill Frazer I will scare you once again. The guy that scores the lowest passing score in med school. They call him or her doctor. The ASVAB is a barometer to see aptitude. I will however agree with everything you said and sometimes truth on logic is there for a reason. I cant recall the cut off, but 55 cant be far away.

He needs to study and go back and take that test again SGM Frazier !

Sorry Boyd, I'm not a fan of re-do's, yes he can take it again, but that doesn't mean he will pass it. Dreams are great and should be strived for but it doesn't mean that one can hack it in the real world.

Understand Sir, but Dr- get years more training, and they have malpractice insurance, we don't and when our medics screw the pooch, we die, there is seldom a 2nd opinion on the battlefield.

Thank you for advice and piece of mind.

Cailey Randolf - You are most welcome! If you'd like to video chat I am open to that. Just drop me a private message with your email if inclined. If you have gmail that would allow us chat via Google Hangouts if you like.

Again, people will be counting on you as a future "Doc". When you choose to serve you may be 100% technically proficient, but if you do ANYTHING to violate trust you marines, you sailors and most of your fell medical team members will not care. The health and care of everyone you encounter will question you. First, decide what being TRUSTWORTHY means to YOU and WHY? When you have that answer you will be GOOD to GO!!!

Now seer this ledge into your mind - https://fmfcmf.org/corpsman-pledge/. If you are prepared to meet this standard 24/7/365 then you know what you have to do!!! Good luck, and if I can offer you further advice and support please DON'T HESITATE to reach out!

SSgt Boyd Herrst - CPO Nate S. Capt Daniel Goodman Cailey Randolf the AF score is 50 in the general section. It is not so much how smart a person is but what they have been exposed to, are interested in, and where their aptitude is at. You are talking an 18 year old kid that took a test in school and probably did not put much effort into it. If you would see the scores of those already working....you would be more scared. Simply take it again- they have study guides. Again I will ask- did the recruiter not tell you that? Not doing their job and pushing you to a different field they need bodies in.

I follow...your thoughts were obviously quite apt, I'd realized he might well be in that age range, honest...also, what you'd said got my mental gears going about various thoughts I've had about such things over a quite protracted period, I'd like to give them all some further thought in the context of what you'd mentioned, and possibly send them in generally to the site, I'd be genuinely interested what you as well as others on here might think, once I'd have a chance to crystallize my notions, so far as possible, certainly, many thanks....

Maj Marty Hogan
Maybe they need to revise the asvab. My Recruiter asked me why I wanted a career field like cook when I could have my pick
Of other career fields. And I explained the Voc-tech and working for my great aunt who is a certified Chef and my apprenticing under her for three years.. So he attached a note to my application to hopefully
Get me in on a by-pass for the SKT
For Cook.. I already had the AFJROTC certificate to enter as a
A1C-(E-3). <~recieve the A1C on grad with promotion effective 2day of enlistment. I did all that and reported to my Reserve Unit. The
Training NCO was so head over heals excited she had my next books for my 5 level already waiting. With one small hitch.. I had to spend time as an apprentice in the 3 level field even though I passed the SKT .. She had a lengthy heated discussion with Maxwell AFB.. She was volatile ..
She gave me my 5 LvL CDCs..
I knocked out the books and test volumes.. them days the volume tests were closed book.as is the SKT. We had to wait but we got them sent In every 3 weeks passed and maxed ! Then knocked out that 5 SKT.. that was done at base testing Aced that too. Maxwell wanted to make sure I was proctored properly. There were 50
Of us, 3 Cooks and we were spread way away from each other.. there were 3 proctors . All the Cooks passed, their score not as high but they passed.. when I did my OJT
time I asked questions based on my books. . Answers were pretty close much was common sense but close to the book. It seemed Maxwell was interested in upcoming APR.
I did really good.. My reporter explained my ‘attention to detail’.
Sanitation details-making sure my work Area was impeccable, Food products prepared as instructed(see attention to detail).
They were impressed I could get so much done In the short time I had in the Reserves. I had even done some extra tdys to other reserve units While still doing my CDCs..
I had some endorsements of my work performance at those units.
What wasn’t noted was my still being in High School.. My Sr. Year.
Had to get some waivers to do that.
Some people are made to be mechanics or math wizzes or chemistry wizzes, I was made to be a upcoming Chef. I had learned a lot at my Aunt’s side.. I seen the way the guys in the AF kitchen cooked and I was determined to fix that.. (Oh sure.. you’re an AF cook
and you’re going to improve how your fellow Airmen cook. This I gotta see).. it takes time.. as is said: ‘Baby steps’!... I see guys(yes even those that tested when I did, hold their knife wrong, how to hold it by the bolster(where the blade comes from the handle). And how to let it slide down off the backs of the fingers of the opposite hand .. My S.L. Really needs to learn that.. That next spring S’thing
Happened in the Active AF.. a big humongous drug bust. A bunch of cooks want down and 5 levels were needed fast. 3 of us signed on and was ready to go by the time I got out of School in June ‘71. Actually before when June week com -
menced. My matriculation was quick. I got my transcript and diploma and I was gone ! Had a small prob about TIS/TIG.. but that got took care of ! When I got to
McGuire AFB In NJ I was still 17..
Aside from that I was assigned to a Reserve unit there. But.. I would be turned over to ABGP on my 1year
anniversary. (Which was also my 18th Birthday) So I was preemptively sssigned my room in the ABGPs Barracks . on June 15, ‘71. I had the CQ banging on my door to make sure I was there per
1SGTs orders.. so that only went on for a week .. I asked had ever had any other 17 year olds in the Sqdn?
He said he had a few. Direct duty guys and he had their dooor banged on too ! ... Oh gee, Thanks dad ! That went over better than I thought ! When he come by work st the Airmen’s Dining Hall He’d ask where his son was .. I paid for that one ! .. We had a friendly talk and he agreed to chill on the son sitrep
He did forget .. So best is just let it go.. We had a A1C that was 27 . He was cool .. I was quickly adopted as his LiL brother(that was between him and I).. I took advantage of that. .. a couple guys on the other shift were giving me grief .. I had showed them how to repair s’thing instead of throwing it out... the questioned it and the Chief (CMSGT) was nearby and vetted what I told them .. they said I
Made them look bad .. it’s our secret guys, ok ? Between us !
“We gonna kick your a*** ! YO, A1C Jake, over here ! And he’d
Check what he was doing and be right over... “Yiu want I should
take care of these guys little bro?”
after that they stayed away, Jake could appear from a crack in the
wall.. I am good at what I do, even
Before I did formal training . Some Pro Chef board said my apprentice hours didn’t count ! Because my Aunt was a relative.. I found that guys in Europe apprenticed under Father’s and Uncle’s. .. I should have the same consideration. It took some years to get that. So all total with my OJT time in the AF and time work’g with my Aunt is 5-1/2 Years.. and noted in my records.
I was fortunate to not have people just hanging over me and and monitoring my work like I didn’t know what I was doing. They learned quickly to move on.. other
Airmen were jealous, they said that bring watched made them nervous.
Then Your In he wrong job ! All the time you be training you’ll be watched so get used to it ! They’d complain; “ you don’t watch A1C
Herrst like you do us!” So the bosses to make them snowflakes feel better, watch me for awhile..
When I rotated out and went some
Where new the watching start all over again.. got used to it ! It’d never end ! ...

I just figured I'd mention, I sent in another thread phrased as a question, about some of the various thoughts whirling around in my head that kind of crystallized in reading this thread, if you all might care to glance at it, at all, hope is of interest, many thanks....

Sir, with ALL DUE RESPECT - Keep congress the hell out of this! You get endorsements to to attend say the USMA or USNA. Sorry sir, but you are WAY out of line here! Also, I am sorry that training in ALLIED HEALTH at he Doctoral level is NOT the same has plugging a hole in some Marine's chest to save their life in the real world. I also admit, I don't know your story and I am coming off a little "hard ass" But, as Chief Corpsman USN (Ret) I take the quality of HMs/Medics very seriously.

If Cailey Randolf has the grit and determination to be a medic (no just an average medic, but a great one) then Cailey Randolf will study and work HARD to either:

- Retake the ASVAB to get the score that Cailey Randolf needs (OR)

- Cailey Randolf will do as you suggest, get with a local rescue squad, take a local EMT/Paramedic program an run with a local squad for a time then if Cailey Randolf misses the ASVAB by a singular point with 3-5 yrs of direct care history behind Cailey Randolf and with strong recommendations from Cailey Randolf's supervisors on performance this has weight!!!

I also agree that other academic medical pursuits could be considered by Cailey Randolf. Ft SAM is working hard to increase the rigor of all military healthcare levels,. While you may not like Col North or his positions on certain issues, I don't know, it might be instructive for you to review this video an listen carefully to the last segment about minute 3:52 in this 5:13 video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_HgmisNqLY

In closing, as a US NAVY CORPSMAN, the life of each solider, salior, marine, airmen and coastguardsmen is precious to me and that Cailey Randolf needs to think long and hard about what being a Warrior-Healer actually means and why? I will be the very 1st to welcome Cailey Randolf to the ranks of military operational medicine, but I expect the best because the people Cailey Randolf will be serving will expect the best, because their lives - depend on it!!!

Finally, I do applaud your efforts to stir Cailey Randolf to other healthcare pursuits. I am be hard because every veteran, my father who was 100% SCD as you are permanently disabled and my wife who is a veteran who is >50% SCD and myself a <20% SCD vet deserve. But, lets make sure Cailey Randolf understands that while being culinary specialist, a jet mechanic or personal specialist have their demands and rewards, the demands of a high quality healthcare professional are all about - attitude and heart!

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Great answer

Hes talking about his a line . score, not the total/ afqt score.

A1C (Join to see) - My message was sent to soon, but Correction: Lines scores are different than AFQT score so get off your high horse