Do you find the term "butter bar" offensive or demeaning?

No. I am proud to be a Squid and was happy to be a "butter bar" Mustang.

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No I don't think it is disrespectful because it does not point a finger at the institution or the individual. It is called Living in the culture. We can't take ourselves too seriously CPT (Join to see) right.

That term has been around since day one. If I would have gone back into the military after college i would've been proud to be a butter bar.

CPT (Join to see) it is describing your rank. Yes it can be said in such a way to be disrespectful just like someone can do to any rank or name. Just like LT. The term in itself is not disrespectful it is how they use it.

Way back when I joined AF Ready Reserve, I was all of 17. I went through a lot of waiver getting.. For one I was still in
My Senior year of H.S. I persuaded .. we’ll I showed them right in the Recruiting material that Reserves is like doing a part time job. School didn’t see it like that..
I had them talking to the Reserve hierarchy.. the school wanted guarantees..
they wanted a lot of stuff, it didn’t mean they’d get it.. (well kind of... they did .. due to the fact I was a minor, No clubroom activity after 9 pm(gee, seriously, it’d Be Sat night) No overseas deploys, the Col. said not in his first year unless an actual war breaks out ..! I did go to Labrador
and Cold Lake and went to Germany over Christmas vacay.. anyway in basic I took a bypass test for Cook(so easy.. I had worked for my Great Aunt at her Restaurant since I was knee high doing stuff like peel carrots.. snap pole beans
, scour burnt pans out on back dock.. as time went on I moved up to harder more intense cooking jobs.. cooking on the grill.
Prepping roasts.. making meat loafs.. Salisbury steaks .. ) So when I got to the
Reserves I already was a proficient Cook.
Some of my ffellow Airmen thought they’d stick me in the clipper or the scullery.. Sarge made sure that didn’t
Happen.. he had me assigned on the Cook sheet with him.. One time, Us and the Air Guard were sharing the kitchen..
Sarge had me on the mashed taters.. I got that bowl over to the big kettle and scooped in the potatoes. And got them over to the Mixer machine and got them
Going.. There was a civilian supervisor in
The kitchen.. I seen one of the civil service kitchen workers go over and say s’thing to her.. She comes over and reaches to shut off the machine.. I asked what’d she think she’s doing.. Sarge asked the same thing.. “how old is this Airman?” Sne asked.. “He’s an A1C and one of my best Cooks, his age is of no concern,” Sarge said.. I just kept on
Making taters.. let him handle the discussion.. She says he needs to be at least 18 to hsndle the mixer, buffalo chopper, meat slicer.. tenderizer.. ..”heck he may as well go home !” Sarge exclaimed .. I vouch for A1C Herrst, hd’s A proficient Young Airman and knows what he’s doing.. so back off, ok? So she backed off and stood in the corner and simmered.. and simmered.. by end of the day we got e’thing cleaned and shined up
Up.. I got my cover and jacket and headed to our bks.. Time for a hot shower and get ready and go to the Airmen’s club.. We already figgered how to work this game.. They ordered the biggest pitcher they could. I ordered a fountain cola.. (good, it was kind of rich, syrupy..)
I got back to the table I drank half the cola and poured the beer in,in Germany
The delivery guys call it a diesel.. keeps the inspectors off their backside, they think they’re drinking cola.. I dran 3 50-50s that’s What I called them .. As I was
Leaving I seen a familiar face.. she had a
Club manager tag on.. she was right by the exit.. I headed to the billiards room .. and hung for a short bit.. I seen her go behind the bar and bend downtown look at s’thing.. I took my cue and got out of that club.. We had one more day of drill..
She wasn’t there to glower and hang over
Us like a vulture awaiting her next meal..
We didn’t do a drill there again.. Another Supervisor gave the MSGT an envelope to be forwarded to the Cmdr... marked Confidental.. I think I knew, but Didn’t
Venture to guess.. We went to the bus all our gear was loaded on below us... we flew to Grissom but were bussing back..
It was going to be a long ride .... K got me some Zs.. I didn’t wake until we got back to Mich. (FF to next month)>... I was work’g on one of the entrees.. The Cmdr and 1SGT were there in the door.. The pointed in my direction and Sarge came and got me.. We went out to the D.R. And got a table..”Do you have any idea why we’re here ,Airman Herrst?” “No I do not”
I responded.. (here it comes..). Here, read for yourself... I’ll skip to the juicy part...
The following Airman; A1C Boyd T. Herrst conducted himself like I would of expected one of his NCOs to Act.. very professional, getting his job assignment completed , Clean-up.. Assisting others when/where needed. His culinary skill
Echoes that of a Professional Chef not an
Reserve Airman on once a month drill.. All the Food selections were top shelf.. They went on... you can only butter a person up so much... We at Grissom Airman’s Dining Facility look forward to
another joint Drill session with A1C Herrst.. (geez I thought my goose was cooked!).. Everything is a team effort..
Between us and the Guard and we busted butt pulling it off and having e’thing where it’s supposed to be.. st the right time..
They told me it would be read atCmdr’s call and a article in the Base paper.. I asked if I could preview it just. Before printing. To make sure everybody that participated gets their due credit.. that’s all I ask, Sir ! I asked to be excused so I could get back to work..

I’m a UAS Operator. I “fobbit” so hard...

Grow some skin...

NO more so than Shake and bake it's all part of the process and if you get offended then you have a problem get your feelings off your shirt sleeves and suck it up butter cup drive on.

No, I do not. CPT (Join to see)

Get over it, if you want to be a snowflake take off the salad suit, and go find a drum circle; otherwise, take a motrin, drink some water and drive on.

If you get offended with just words leave your service. There is a line between respect and disrespect. But if someone is going to get hurt and cry about it, it better be because of a bullet not a bully. I had butter bars that do bad because they worry about what others think of them and I see butter bars that gets statement of charges because he feels that he is responsible that his lack of leadership made the private get involved in negligence ( that good officer that cares more about his men then what others think of him).. this allows him to grow as a leader so he will say in the future " i had a great time as a butter bar with my plt"

No

Compared to some of the other things we’ve been called? Buck up buttercup!

No

It can be useful to have an extensive vocabulary of informal appellatives; however, using them whenever the opportunity presents is childish and unprofessional.

Here is where civilians will never be. Name calling begins in bootcamp and progresses as we climb the ladder. Some are a way of encouragement, others a way to let you know you need to do more. And if you can't handle the name, you need to join a group meeting about how your feelings got hurt. There are plenty of those.

Must we now become politically correct to that level? Will our next work uniform be a snowflake camo? Does that question even bear discussion?

For those who think Butter Bar is disrespectful, would they prefer Shave-tail instead? I rarely used Butter Bar to designate an Ensign It was always Shave tail when identifying an Ensign or 2nt Lt in MarDet aboard Ship. 3rd person only of course. Would never do it to their face, as that would be disrespectful and against the UCMJ. The Military has tons of names for the different ranks and rates and it's what it is. If you cannot hack a little jabbing for fun then you need to get the hell out because you will become the brunt of every joke. Being able to roll with the punches and come u laughing is what makes us BROTHERS and SISTERS. Every rank has its nick names Call a Full Bird or a 4 striper, Bird Boy in a relaxed setting and see how quick they laugh, you will know if you have a good officer or not, unless he is the Skipper. and then it does not make any difference if he is a Full Bird, Light Bird, Lt or whatever The Skipper is the Skipper and rank never plays into the conversation unless you are making introductions.

I've always seen terms like this like you would call freshmen "freshmeat". If you take offence then you need to lighten up.

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