Posted on Jul 15, 2014
CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Original article 30 june
Warrant officer boo boo
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The posting about the Army adopting or looking at sleeves on the ACU being rolled up because some folks think that it is hot, a garrison thing or whatever, really made me red in the face and embarrassed to be a warrant officer. I pose to you the survey just so we can keep track, but the issue is that sometimes folks go out of their way to not only embarrass themselves, but everyone associated with the rank in which they wear, their branch or even service.

The 30 June article in the ARMY TIMES was highlighted by a photo of a aviator claimed to be a CW3 in the wording, with a CW2 photo of a aviation army combat uniform, otherwise known as the A2CU. His sleeves were rolled up and he was obviously wearing a Stetson, which in turn eluded to the fact he was Cavalry.

I am not going to dispute the findings of the ARMY TIMES since that article that the officer in question has a very questionable career, integrity and lack of Army Values. What really gets under my skin is his lack of regard for his brothers and sisters first of all in the warrant officer corps, then the aviation branch, followed by the Calvary and finally the Army as a whole.

I must quote his phone interview to the ARMY TIMES with regard to his everyday wearing of the uniform in violation of 670-1, "I basically give them 'the look' - dare them to say something". I was appalled and hit the floor almost passed out that a fellow warrant officer would publicly donate a photo and such words to represent the whole population. The harm is done. The amount of readers and viewers of this obviously will not see the investigation into his service and past to know that this guy is not credible.

So I am embarrassed for my rank (warrant officers) in the branch and the Army. I have to defend our rank because a knucklehead spoke out and no one will look past his comment on 30 June. It already is hard as aviators get to un-blouse their boots when flying and often forget to tuck them back in afterwards. Often aviators push limits on haircuts, sideburns and mustaches, but this was a bit over the top.

Several thing spoke to me in the article. The ARMY TIMES did not research the officer with much detail. The officer whether Guard, Reserve or Active duty is wrong. Rolling up sleeves when not authorized and walking around with an attitude against officers and Soldiers alike is criminal. Surely if an officer told him to roll up his sleeves and he gave that 'look', that he would be charged with UCMJ.

This article and policy, I really don't care about, the Army did me a favor having me wear my sleeves down. I no longer have skin cancer on my forearms! Trust me when I say it stinks having pieces of you cut out for it. If the Army gave the option today, I would only roll them up to be uniformly in a formation with the rest of the Soldiers.

So this gentleman, CW2 or CW3 Calhoun has embarrassed and tarnished the idea of a warrant officer to me. Probably to a lot of others, or he validated a prejudice already of how warrant officers can or may be perceived. He went further wearing the CAV Stetson, saying he was in USASOC, mentioning SOF and being an aviator. None of these grant him immunity from proper wear of the uniform. I would hope he was proud of his rank, branch and service enough to comply.

So the question to you is have you ever been embarrassed for your rank, branch or service?

EXAMPLES: Remember the Airman sticking the tongue out on the POW symbol? The Soldiers on funeral detail and casket? We could go on, but are you affected?
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SFC Deputy Station Commander
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I usually get upset not embarrassed because I always have facts and the other 99% of the Force for my rebuttal.
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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There are certain individuals (unfortunately, many who have made it to senior ranks) who do not believe in the Army values... other than telling everyone else that they need to know them, or carry a card. There is a reason that the NCOER talks about "Be, Know, Do", but for some reason there are individuals who have absolutely no clue what any of that means; it's all "do as I say, not as I do" and "I got mine, you need to try to get yours".
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
CW5 Sam R. Baker
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12 years of combat and attrition have done just as you have stated to a degree and I am well aware of that charge. One reason I have not retired is to attempt at being a counter-balance to just those individuals who lay claim to that title!

Thanks for your response!
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SPC George Adkins
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Shitbags in the NCO (and lower enlisted, and the officer corps) have always existed. Peacetime drawdowns just exacerbate them.
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I agree wholeheartedly, with both of you CW5 Sam R. Baker and SPC George Adkins

Unfortunately, as much of a counterweight as I can be, there is still only so much I can do. In the end, I will retire, just over 20 years and have to trust my branch will be taken care of by the few that have learned the RIGHT lessons.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Critically correct and one lesson I did learn a long time ago, everyone is replaceable and once someone feels that they are not, then it is usually a problem for everyone around them. I usually witness this type of activity when one writes a duty description while serving, that only one person can qualify to fill, usually the one writing it. Some garrison staffers are just that.
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SPC George Adkins
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I've been out of uniform since 1993. I had never been embarrassed until 2008. I was sitting at an outdoor restaurant in Weiden, Germany on business for my employer. This was a business dinner in every sense of the word as we were hashing out over dinner the final pre-delivery punch-list on a $26 million piece of equipment. With a heavy US military presence in the area, the square had a lot of obvious soldiers walking around. They were so easy to spot, it was pathetic. They were loud, rowdy, and generally obnoxious as hell. I was embarrassed in front of my German friends and colleagues. They knew I had been in the Army stationed in Germany. Somehow, I felt judged by the actions of these guys, knowing I too probably was a jerkoff to the local populace when I was stationed there.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
CW5 Sam R. Baker
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So they obviously missed you are a "Foreign diplomat" briefing I am assuming. You instantly know when you are a good Soldier and have entered the zone of (Stereotype) previous discontent with Soldiers. It would be nice that all ahead of us left a place in a better way than when they got there, but not everyone was raised that way I assume.
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SPC George Adkins
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Chief, it was as if they had the anti-ambassador training. The worst part, is it wasn't just one or two knuckleheads on their way back to the barracks after a night out. This was early evening (still daylight) and there were dozens of them. Even now, thinking back, it makes me sad, angry, and embarrassed.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Yes, when folks act out in such a way whether with the effects of alcohol or not, it is, usually folks give a pass for alcohol induced stupidity, but when folks are sober and fully aware of such actions, it is detrimental to us all that they represent.
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MAJ Philip Crabtree
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This is not the same Army I came into. There's no room to breathe, and highly trained killers have been ordered to become social workers and more " thenthative". I've never been ashamed of my branch or rank. Of course, I'm a CAV Scout turned Tanker by way of OCS.
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MAJ Philip Crabtree
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This is not the same Army I came into. There's no room to breathe, and highly trained killers have been ordered to become social workers and more " thenthative". I've never been ashamed of my branch or rank. Of course, I'm a CAV Scout turned Tanker by way of OCS.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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HOOAH sir, thanks for your .02
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SSgt Charles Edwards
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I try not to let the negative actions of the few, define the majority. I can't speak on the uniform issue that you've presented because I'm unfamiliar with Army regs as it pertains to the uniform. However, I am familiar with the Air Force cop who was photographed kissing the POW/MIA logo. As a former cop and a NCO, that really bothered me. What she did was blatantly disrespectful to those who have been held as prisoners of war or are missing in action and her antics made light of something we veterans and service members hold in high regard. I never once felt she embarrassed the badge or the Air Force, but I do believe she embarrassed herself. I have faith that her leadership addressed her ill-advised actions to the letter and that she caught hell from those around her about what she did.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Yes I familiar with that one also, much like the MPs in Iraq with the prisoners. Thanks for your opinion and thoughts.
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SGT Psyop Specialist
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I doubt anything could make me embarrassed of my Regiment/Branch
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SSG Jeffery Haynes
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You have to realize that these Soldiers do not represent everyone, so you can think what you want about them, but to me it's an individual's responsibility and discipline as in this article. That CW3 made the conscious decision not to follow regulations, and when I see something like that I don't think that's how every warrant officer acts. You have to separate the individual from the whole.
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SFC Istvan Nagy
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Rank - No Way! It' good to be a/an (Senior) NCO, especially is you stay squared away.

Branch - Engineer Branch. No Way! Engineer Branch is one of the most versatile of the branches out there. There are a 1001 things you can do on a daily bases. Me being a 12C and 12B, I see no limit! Essayons!
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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I will never let the actions of another person embarrass me. There's no reason to take up for your rank or service. This is one man that went FULLLLL.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fwJo3bA05Q
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
CW5 Sam R. Baker
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SGT Fulgham, the fact that sometimes folks make it hard for a rank or service to recover from a perception, stereotype or unfavorable opinion that they induce on the public or another individual is some seriously hard work. I enjoy the sense of humor and obviously you can counter any prejudice placed upon your rank by defusing it. Some may have a harder time. Thanks for contributing.
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I just realized you were a CW5 there CW5 Sam R. Baker !!! Good on you! That's one I haven't seen. You should shame this man. But seriously, I do try to defuse with comedy... if it works. This man happens to be a fraud and there's no reason that you should have to explain your hard work because of this idiot! Be PROUD! You should with that rank! Have a great day, Sir!
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