Posted on Mar 17, 2015
How to differentiate personnel's rank during PT? Choice #2 worked amazingly in Hawaii.
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Personally, I think that the different color belts are a much better idea that way you can avoid an unneeded sharp complaint. (some people are petty like that)
Fort Cavazos
Physical Training
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Posted 11 y ago
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I wonder how the Army got along at PT before PT belts? Was there bloodshed? Mass hysteria? Chaos?
No....no, there wasnt. We survived.
Just get rid of it. It doesn't save lives. Its just another thing to buy and keep up with.
We had an IPFU that was REFLECTIVE.... apparently that wasn't good enough.
Or...it just made entirely too much sense and we just had to Army that all to death.
No....no, there wasnt. We survived.
Just get rid of it. It doesn't save lives. Its just another thing to buy and keep up with.
We had an IPFU that was REFLECTIVE.... apparently that wasn't good enough.
Or...it just made entirely too much sense and we just had to Army that all to death.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
We stared across this wall in Berlin for 40 years. That's how! Then, when the wall fell, we complained there was no wall! That kept our minds off the lack of appropriate PT Accessories!
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SSG John Erny
MAJ Carl Ballinger
BAck in the day We were asked by the CSM and Top: so.... PFC you're going to buy the BN PT shirt right! Good, now I would like to tell you about AUSA and the 82nd ABN association, your going to join those also? Glad to hear that you are. Then they cover up the duty roster.
If you got hurt no matter what you were doing it was your fault, that's how it was back in the day. Sunburn= AR-15, wreck your bike = AR-15, piss some one off AR-15.
The only people who had reflective vests were the road guards.
BAck in the day We were asked by the CSM and Top: so.... PFC you're going to buy the BN PT shirt right! Good, now I would like to tell you about AUSA and the 82nd ABN association, your going to join those also? Glad to hear that you are. Then they cover up the duty roster.
If you got hurt no matter what you were doing it was your fault, that's how it was back in the day. Sunburn= AR-15, wreck your bike = AR-15, piss some one off AR-15.
The only people who had reflective vests were the road guards.
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Here's a silly question. During PT do we need to differentiate rank? Just asking...
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
Is not PT performed by company? Why would you not know the rank of folks in your company? Just like in combat now days with the ranks on the chest and everyone wearing "flak jackets" covering the rank up. Back in the day we just got bunch of fatigues in from QM laundry and grabbed what fit and sent the dirty ones back on the supply ship. Nothing on them, but some would take a marker and write U S Army over the left pocket. Don't you go by I know my team leader, Sqd Leader, Plt SGT, PL, CO etc. and have a passing familiarity with others in the company? Now when I did PT we had just tee shirts and fatigue trousers and boots on, but I knew who was who. Often, because they had the full uniform on watching us! lol
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Such a pity... I am not able to vote on either of these choices.... The Air Force Base that I am at has now stated that the disco belt is not a requirement. I don't wear one in any color now!
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COL Charles Williams
USAF is belt crazy, but since the don't do much PT.... then they don't really see these as PT belts... but names... and ranks... matter not at PT... Your unit knows who you are.
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Haha disco belt! And good duty station I lived in great falls before joining the army!
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I know in TRADOC everyone wears vests, with white name tapes sewn on with rank and name.
My question is why do need our rank on the vest, belt, etc?
Until I showed up on TRADOC post in 2003, (1980-2003), no one worried about who was what rank at PT? I figured in TRADOC, it was so you could tell who the Drill Sergeants were, and the Cadre, then all the other units and courses started...
I say we don't need rank for PT. Folks in your unit know who you are.
My question is why do need our rank on the vest, belt, etc?
Until I showed up on TRADOC post in 2003, (1980-2003), no one worried about who was what rank at PT? I figured in TRADOC, it was so you could tell who the Drill Sergeants were, and the Cadre, then all the other units and courses started...
I say we don't need rank for PT. Folks in your unit know who you are.
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COL Charles Williams
MAJ Carl Ballinger good question... we went many years (in my career) with no rank on APFUs... and all was OK....
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COL Charles Williams
Obviously I am older, but until 2003, when I first saw rank on PT vests in TRADOC... there was never an issue... In OST, we knew who all the Drill Sergeants were... in all schools the same, and in my units, we knew who was who...
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SSG John Erny
COL Charles Williams
As I recall most of the time back in the day in the 407th S&T 82nd other than the butter bars all of the Officers and E-8's and 9's did their own thing. They ran the CSM's challenge down to main post and back to division. LTC Freeman, Maj West and the XO what was her name, ahh yes Maj Ann Dunwoody :-) This did not include battalion runs of course.
As I recall most of the time back in the day in the 407th S&T 82nd other than the butter bars all of the Officers and E-8's and 9's did their own thing. They ran the CSM's challenge down to main post and back to division. LTC Freeman, Maj West and the XO what was her name, ahh yes Maj Ann Dunwoody :-) This did not include battalion runs of course.
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SGT Aaron Kennedy:
I enlisted late in life, and I was in the same age bracket as most of the BN staff at BCT.
I enlisted late in life, and I was in the same age bracket as most of the BN staff at BCT.
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Just PT and don't worry about it. If you're doing unit PT, then the people in the unit know who their officers and NCOs are. If you're doing individual PT, just be courteous and follow base regulations and it won't matter either way.
The whole BS reflective belt is asinine anyway. Makes my blood pressure go up just thinking about the damn things.
The whole BS reflective belt is asinine anyway. Makes my blood pressure go up just thinking about the damn things.
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3, If you have leisure to worry about whether people know your rank during PT then A you're not working hard enough B you're not getting around enough when in uniform or C both.
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you can't go wrong with Sir Ma'am or shipmate (or equivalent) just be polite and be respectful and if someone gets offended well they deserve to be offended
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some people are rude and if your rude to wrong person you can get in trouble for disrespect... even if that person was wrong... dont act like yall never seen that NCO are OFFICER.. with that chip on their shouldier that you cant tell them nothing, even if your nice about it... with out them getting loud and telling you exactly who they are... and how you should be at parade rest... but your like sorry I didnt know who you were... I rather be able to spot everyone
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