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I have four ARCOM's and an ARCOM with V device for a total of 5. Everyone I've gone to seems to give me a different answer. Rack builder had it as two ribbons, one with V device and 3 bronze oak leafs and an empty ribbon. Any help would be appreciated.
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Per AR 670-1: When a "V" device is worn with oak leaf clusters, the "V" device is worn on the wearer's right. <div>I say all on one ribbon, the "V" device, and then 4 oak leaf clusters. I say this because the "V" device does not denote a subsequent award, just that one of your awards of the ARCOM were for valor. </div><div>I base this off reading the definition of an oak leaf cluster and the definition of the "V" device. </div>
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SFC Carlos Cruz
We was on the same time since is not something you see much yet authorized. IAW AR 670-1, 3 February 2005; (RAR) issue Date 11 May 2012. Page 278, Wear of appurtenances, read (1) through (b).
(2). If the number of authorized oak leaf clusters exceeds four and will not fit on a single ribbon, a second ribbon is authorized for Wear. Look this up and you will understand it clearly what is authorized. Once you receive a five it oak you will only use one award with the “V” one silver oak.
(2). If the number of authorized oak leaf clusters exceeds four and will not fit on a single ribbon, a second ribbon is authorized for Wear. Look this up and you will understand it clearly what is authorized. Once you receive a five it oak you will only use one award with the “V” one silver oak.
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SFC Carlos Cruz
All Soldiers are authorized one silver oak for every five bronze oak leaf.
Example, You received 3 bronze award, get a “V” the is total of four per award. Now you get another bronze oak leaf; IAW 670-1 page 278 paragraph (1) through (b) make it clear to used second award until you get the 5 award the became one silver oak leaf eliminating one award and in the one award you will used the "V" with the silver oak leaf.
Example, You received 3 bronze award, get a “V” the is total of four per award. Now you get another bronze oak leaf; IAW 670-1 page 278 paragraph (1) through (b) make it clear to used second award until you get the 5 award the became one silver oak leaf eliminating one award and in the one award you will used the "V" with the silver oak leaf.
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SFC Carlos Cruz
SFC Mark Marino was on point. State doesn’t override Federal regulation. Since all state must fallow Federal & they are approved by HRC for ARNG, NG. Reserve unit are Federal not state. 1SGT Shane Hasbun was also on point four per award but has nothing to do with any state is IAW AR 670-1 the apply to all units including NG, ARNG units.
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SFC Carlos Cruz
SSG philips on point AR 670-1, page 278 paragraph 29-12 Wear of appurtenances section (1) through (b).
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Just earn a 6th one and this all becomes a mute point. Go for it!
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SPC Wanda Vergara-Yates
Interpreting previous comments, wear one ribbon with the V, then a silver OLC. If you get anymore, you add the bronze OLCs after. But the reg should really confirm or correct.
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IAW Army Regulation 670–1, the photo is correct. Please read the following paragraph from the regulation itself. If you are awarded one more, then you could wear the ribbon with the "V" and "1" silver oak leaf cluster (if I'm reading the reg correctly).
Army Regulation 670–1
Uniform and Insignia
Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia20–11. Appurtenances
a. Oakleafclusters. Bronzeoakleafclustersareworntodenoteawardofsecondandsucceedingawardsofdecorations (other than the Air Medal), the Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal, and unit awards. A silver oak leaf cluster is worn in lieu of five bronze oak leaf clusters. A maximum of four oak leaf clusters may be worn on a single ribbon; a maximum of three oak leaf clusters may be worn with the “V” device on a single ribbon, for a total of four devices on the ribbon. If the number of authorized oak leaf clusters exceeds the maximum authorized then a second ribbon is worn to the wearer’s left of the first ribbon. See DA Pam 670–1 for specific guidance.
Army Regulation 670–1
Uniform and Insignia
Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia20–11. Appurtenances
a. Oakleafclusters. Bronzeoakleafclustersareworntodenoteawardofsecondandsucceedingawardsofdecorations (other than the Air Medal), the Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal, and unit awards. A silver oak leaf cluster is worn in lieu of five bronze oak leaf clusters. A maximum of four oak leaf clusters may be worn on a single ribbon; a maximum of three oak leaf clusters may be worn with the “V” device on a single ribbon, for a total of four devices on the ribbon. If the number of authorized oak leaf clusters exceeds the maximum authorized then a second ribbon is worn to the wearer’s left of the first ribbon. See DA Pam 670–1 for specific guidance.
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SGT Jason Quarles
That's not an army reserve component achievement that's an arcom army commendation medal
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MAJ (Join to see)
Correct, the screen is correct. Earn another and then it can all be reduced to one ribbon with the "V" device and a SOLC.
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Reading all these responses is just validation for why I would rather not get an award and just be handed a commanders coin and told thanks.
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SSgt (Join to see)
Got my first coin handed to me not long after I arrived at U.S. Embassy, Tashkent, Uzbekistan by General Votel. It was a pretty awesome gesture that means more to me than most awards, in my opinion.
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SFC Malcolm Haugen
For some younger personnel, these awards are promotion points. Once you make E-7, awards basically become irrelevant. E-6 and below is when you make most of your awards so when you do your D.A. photo it tells the board a bit about you prior to being reviewed. Your personnel file says the rest. Make sure you file and awards on your uniform match.
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I think the screen is correct until you earn your next ARCOM. Then you would take away the extra ribbon and the 3 bronze OLC's. You would then have 1 ribbon with V and a silver OLC.
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SGT (Join to see)
Thanks for your input Sir. I ended up with a V and 4 oak lead clusters on one ribbon after I asked the brigade SGM. I figured if he said that was the correct way then no one else would have a problem with it.
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LTC Paul Labrador
IIRC you're only allowed to have a total of 4 accouterments per ribbon, which is why you have the extra ARCOM on the rack.
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Anybody who served in combat probably had no time to address the protocol on how to wear what. As a former member of the 101st Airborne stateside, I also served with the 173rd Airborne first tour in Nam and the 82nd Airborne second tour. When I put on the patches of all the units I served with on my motorcycle vest I actually had an idiot question the possibility of my having served with all three units because he claimed my combat patches were on the wrong side. I told him I was never rear echelon so I never had a chance to look pretty and that he was welcome to tell me where the patches should be worn but warned him against insinuating that I might be lying. He had no further comment.
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I got 99 problems but a ARCOM with a V device is not one. I have never seen this happen but the 4 device limit is correct. The second ribbon would stand as a another award to the first. It looks odd and you are going to get a millions questions when you wear it but it is correct.
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COL (Join to see)
I was awarded a Bronze Star when I left Vietnam. I left the Service about 4 months later. One day in the mail I found that the last battle I had been in was written up and because I was now a civilian they awarded me an ARCOM with a "V" device. I would have been happy if they just told I was awarded a second Bronze Star. I think it had something to do with who was required to award the Bronze Star.
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This is how I have been wearing my rack. This is my interpretation of 670-1. I wear the V and the oak leaf together on the same ribbon. I have passed the scrutiny of many an NCO and SGM.
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CPL Jonathan Moe
Nice rack, but please get the ribbons in the proper order. The placement of those GWOT's are burning holes in my eyes.
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