Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Make an example out of him and assign him some one else's task as well for being a smart ass
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MSgt Gene B.
"Company punishment' is only warranted when the perpetrator cannot be identified. In this case, that's not the problem. The rest of the unit needs to know that it's being handled appropriately, generally by telling the troop to report to you in your office as soon as he or she is dismissed.
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Combat medic badge. I took the test as enlisted but earned my wreath ad a nurse 0-2
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Ooooo Lord!!! Request UCMJ action, Take his precious time n enjoy watching him on shit details
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Being a commissioned officer, probably just delegate dealing with it to my most senior NCO as that would be his lane.
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My first reaction would be to smoke him in place. If he refuses, turn the formation over to the next ranking NCO and w/said troop's NCO/SP4 move aside; lock him up, and inform him in no uncertain words how badly he is fucking up. Then I would have smoked him repeatedly. If he refused to be dealt w/in such a manner I would write him up and take his rank, money, and time for as long as the CO would allow.
Of course that was when I was in some 14 years ago. Now I'd not smoke him but take rank, time and money from him. You crushed shit like that ASAP or it ruins your own position and sets the stage for more problems.
My question though is why? Have you been overly nice to him or other privates? Is he a problem child? Do you not spread the evil details around to all or just some? In my 22 years I never saw a troop pull that in any unit I served in though admittedly they were mainly line or airborne infantry units where discipline was strict.
Of course that was when I was in some 14 years ago. Now I'd not smoke him but take rank, time and money from him. You crushed shit like that ASAP or it ruins your own position and sets the stage for more problems.
My question though is why? Have you been overly nice to him or other privates? Is he a problem child? Do you not spread the evil details around to all or just some? In my 22 years I never saw a troop pull that in any unit I served in though admittedly they were mainly line or airborne infantry units where discipline was strict.
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I would handle it the same way I handle insubordination at work. I would ask him and the Leading Seaman to stay behind for a moment and "have a conversation", documenting the event...If there's something hidden at home or medical going on I'll try to be sympathetic, but firm about the importance of following orders.
As The Doctor (Doctor Who) says..." No second chances", if they've done it before and there's no medical or other extenuating circumstance at play, they are about to go have a talk with my supervisor and I, who may decide that a trip to the Division Officer is required.
But then again I would never assign someone something that I would not have done myself and chances are as an E-5 I may be working right along side of them anyway doing other things I have on my list from the E-6 or E-7...
As The Doctor (Doctor Who) says..." No second chances", if they've done it before and there's no medical or other extenuating circumstance at play, they are about to go have a talk with my supervisor and I, who may decide that a trip to the Division Officer is required.
But then again I would never assign someone something that I would not have done myself and chances are as an E-5 I may be working right along side of them anyway doing other things I have on my list from the E-6 or E-7...
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