Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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What Would You Do
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say he can accept the assignment or the punishment. choice. Issue standard protocol for insubordination.
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I would smoke-check that E-2 like he should be. Disrespect too a senior NCO will not be tolerated by no means at all.
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SPC Craig Abram
thats the truth.... too much kowtowing to the pansy snowflakes.... no one in my day would of dared that nonsense.... typical griping is expected but insubordination shows a lack of leadership and discipline....
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Shut him down while in formation put him in the front leaning rest position. After formation grab another NCO and address the issue.
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Take a big old dump on him. Show respect and keep your bearing specially in formation. You cannot allow one to do that in front of others. He rises up in front of others he gets checked in front of others
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Tell him and his supervisor to stand fast and have everyone else fall out. Rip them both a new ass and ask the supervisor later what the hell is going on with junior GI.
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I would say "Ok, fine. I will find someone else to do that task". I would then find the worst possible job available to assign to this young Sailor. I would then explain to him the error of his ways while PTing him until he puked. Only at that point would I know his lesson had been learned.
Any Command that would not support and expect this type of discipline from its NCO's has a leader that should be immediately removed from the military before they weaken it further.
Any Command that would not support and expect this type of discipline from its NCO's has a leader that should be immediately removed from the military before they weaken it further.
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Time to stop babying these millennials and knock them on the fricking asses. If i had disrespected my superior back in my time, my ass would be wondering "how come i'm on the floor".
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It happened once to me as a PO3, some AR appeared dubious about an instruction. I just said stand fast after dismisiing the work detail. Left him standing there untill all work had finished (good three hours, more or less). Then asked him if he would like to do what was asked of him or if he wanted to stay there overnight and see the skipper on the morning. He did his job, never again, he was cured...
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Give him that job and everyone else's for the rest of the week and calm explain it can always go out back
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Someone failed to "educate" this young cruit. Back in the day, no one questioned, or refused an order. FIrst off, at the first words of refusal in front of others, they would get dressed down in front of those that are present, to insure that all knows who is on charge, and all know the consequences of insubordination in the open, if the insubordination occurs in private, then perhaps a private talk is in order, but still, the e2 still needs to know in uncertain terms that this is not acceptable.
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