I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

I had to deal with same crap when we were deployed to Baghdad. I worked a midnight to noon shift in the toc and also ran missions as the commanders gunner but someone put out MANDATORY pt sessions. Everyone had to either make 0700 or 1600 pt, and I couldn't go at 0700 so I'd fall asleep at like 1pm have to wake up for 1600pt then go back to sleep til 2330 or maybe end up going on missions. I guess it's just stuff ya gotta deal with in the military.

Train as if your life may depend on it. War comes with no sleep rules. Do the PT and then shower and rest if it is in the schedule. I spent 42 hours without more than a cat nap and had to fight for much of the last 2 hours. Training and PT are not punishment. they are preparation. Your attitude toward it may keep you alive or get you killed. Be careful what you wish for, and remember you joined the Army you weren't drafted.

In my day, 1981-2001 if you worked that shift, then PT was done in the afternoon. We did a thing called reverse duty training, where we flipped the day to first call at 1600, PT at 1700, and so on. Whoever your operations NCO is, they are not planning this right. Your position, and those that follow the same duty time frame should have your day adjusted accordingly. That being said, remember, follow your last order, and suck it up, however make your concern known.

Theres is regs , but it is also training to see how a soldier fubctions through deprived sleep as in a war time siruation , there is some instructors who check previous testing scores to see how each soldier handles the situation on a individual and group basis.

I think that there would be time between PT and work un the afternoon to sleep. When I worked third shift, I had to adjust to sleeping all day and working or doing my own thing at night. I also had to be up at 0700 to take kids to school. There is 8 consecutive hrs for rest in that schedule. Maybe just not the same hours ofvthe day as others who work 1st shift. Sleep after PT in a dark room and get adjusted to day light sleeping like the rest of the working world that have night jobs. Soon, I'm sure, you will be able to get a day shift as your seniority improves. That's the real life, military or not.

You suck it up and do it. You start playing regulations games, as a junior enlisted, with a brand new 1st Sgt/ Commander and you're done. You'll be on every shit working party until you transfer out or get out of the military altogether.

Should’ve joined the Cub Scouts! Not even Boy Scout material

My first question is: I thought PT was mandatory - exceptions being those working at that time. Did that change??

stop hanging out at the club and get your sleep. I can remember when we had PFT that overseas in the Philippines. guys would be coming in from the clubs and try to run PFT then throw up. me I would stay on base. and run the PFT.

sucks working shifts I know, ask your supervisor to attend a meeting with the 1Sg to address the issue and point out the issues....conversely you could just stay up and go to the 0530 PT....and sleep during the day?

You have a problem with your NCO's not your 1SG or Commander, The senior enlisted IE platoon, squad leaders and section NCO's, use the open door policy if your direct supervisor can't help. If you have been counseled monthly and if reflects that you have had no problems I see no point why a 1sg wouldn't fix the problem unless you have shitty leadership and chain of command.

So you can't sleep after PT, your shift don't start till 1600.

Go to PT and keep your mouth shut.

Your command isn’t the problem.

Go and do not he best you can. If you get lucky endorphin will kick in and you'll be wide awake all day. The best high you'll ever get.

Finish your enlistment and do the military a favor and get out!!!

I've been thinking through this and I realized that at age 60 I'm getting 4.5 to 5 hours of sleep per night. I get up at 0430 to run; work from 0800 to 1700 or 1800, hang out with my family, and get to sleep by 2300 or 0000. Every day. As a civilian. This is just to say that people function in 5 hours of sleep all the time. But, if I were 1SG, I'd have my section leader conduct PT at an appropriate time for my shift workers. In this case, PT for the section would be at around 1400.

I read this and almost, almost collapsed in tears! This situation is so incredibly cruel! Is so ........OH BULLSHIT! Yes your working in a nice clean hospital, good chow and comfy little bed I am sure. Its clear you are NOT a field medic! And I hope with what you wrote you never will be. First,I for one don't know how many times I rolled at 0500, laced boots and hit the parade ground, after 15 minutes of down time from an all night attempt to drink everyone else at the table under it. This after starting the day before at 0500. Granted, I was a lot younger than I am now, but point is it can be done, repeatedly. Also, I hope I can safely assume that your time has always been in CONUS. Or way far away from any combat situation. With what is disturbing you now, combat would have killed you. Or your Grunts would have, listening to you snivel. Cupcake, I don't know you. I am only drawing a conclusion from what you have stated. You really need to buck your ass up and get with the program. There will come a time in your life that you are gonna have to look back at your service, look yourself in the eye at the mirror, and either be proud of the job you did, voluntarily, or consider never letting anyone know what you did or how you did it. We, all of us, have parts that we have to perform, to the best of our ability, to make sure of mission success. Big or little jobs, they all have to be done. Shit hits the fan in your life, you are now self discovering what you are down deep. Do it for yourself and that gets it done for all. The old saying is true......"Pick your ass up, you can sleep when your dead"! Just sayin' ..............

All this bravado and posturing is hilarious. These responses have turned into a dick measuring contest. This is exactly why retention rate is bad in some career fields. I sympathize with the poster as my military career was also shift work. I would recommend taking it up the chain with your valid concerns.

Go to PT

This can't be real. Is this a joke?