Posted on Dec 1, 2014
If America needs you again, would you be willing to return to active duty one grade lower?
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If you read Once an Eagle, you know the hero was up and down in permanent and temporary ranks based on the needs of the military...but you might not know that one of my personal heroes, Gen. Andrew Goodpaster (SACEUR) took a downgrade to 3- star rank to command his beloved West Point. If we had full mobilization or even partial mobilization, what about you?
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 146
Absolutely, I can just imagine morning PT formation. Us old guys, no coffee yet, and the overwhelming smell of Ben Gay in the air.
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SPC Donald Moore
When I was in, I would get up an hour early and drink a whole pot of coffee before going out to PT. I was never late to formation.
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I will always be willing to serve my Country. The rest is intended as humor
The interesting thing would be just how low the threshold for BS might go if a bunch of cranky already retired guys came back in? Common phrases might include: Let me tell you another thing...WTH were you thinking when you....Whose brilliant idea was this.....Say (blank) one more time....
The good news is that when the fights broke out in the bars, the MPs/SFS/MAs could very like catch everybody.
And I am not even retired yet......bwahahaha
The interesting thing would be just how low the threshold for BS might go if a bunch of cranky already retired guys came back in? Common phrases might include: Let me tell you another thing...WTH were you thinking when you....Whose brilliant idea was this.....Say (blank) one more time....
The good news is that when the fights broke out in the bars, the MPs/SFS/MAs could very like catch everybody.
And I am not even retired yet......bwahahaha
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SSG Tim Everett
When the fight breaks out in the bar and all the young bucks are laid out on the sidewalk outside, the MPs are going to have to gas us out first. They'd be too chickenshit to come in there with a bunch of grizzled old wolverines.
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Yeah that could happen, but I believe there would be a lot of fireworks to overcome due to the clash of military era cultures. Not too sure that old Viet vets would integrate real well with the new kinder, gentler, PC military. Might have to build a few more brigs ....or grow some old corps balls.
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Cpl Dennis F.
That said, I do believe that there is a valid place for us crotchety old farts....in training.
TSgt J.D. Hall We would contribute much in the way of lessons learned, and solutions to problems that have been forgotten or lost in the PC shuffle. I have seen the military re-invent the wheel many times and it would save lives to not have to do that every generation or so.
TSgt J.D. Hall We would contribute much in the way of lessons learned, and solutions to problems that have been forgotten or lost in the PC shuffle. I have seen the military re-invent the wheel many times and it would save lives to not have to do that every generation or so.
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SSG Tim Everett
OMG, this TOTALLY needs to be a movie! Sort of like Space Cowboys for the military!!
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No problemo. If they want this lard-ass it would be an even trade off. Besides, I loved being a CPT!
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America does need us again. We should all be serving right now, without rank or pay. Sadly, most aren't.
We should be voting. At the heart of most of the growing political rancor lies the fact that politicians are flying blind. They don't really know what We the People want. We don't bother to tell them. They only know what They Who Contribute The Most want.
We should be forming ourselves into community-based emergency response teams. If the government doesn't have the good sense to reestablish Civil Defense as a viable agency, we should take it upon ourselves. Why should people sit helplessly on their roofs waiting for rescue or be herded into a stadium or FEMA camps while the military goes door-to-door illegally confiscating guns as they did following a natural disaster like Hurricane Katrina. In addition to natural disasters, we now have the threat of terrorism to contend with. We need Civil Defense, not more expensive, ineffective government agencies like Homeland Defense which is doing little good and leaching away our rights.
We, especially we veterans, should be helping our communities organize and train militias to combat terrorism. Our military is very effective fighting terrorists at a distance, but how effective will they be if terrorism seeps into our communities?
We veterans should be helping veterans just as we helped one another on the battlefield. The Veterans Administration is broken and, just like all government agencies, it is politically resistant to repair. It may never be truly effective, efficient, or economical. Join the American Legion or the VFW or both and help.
We should be voting. At the heart of most of the growing political rancor lies the fact that politicians are flying blind. They don't really know what We the People want. We don't bother to tell them. They only know what They Who Contribute The Most want.
We should be forming ourselves into community-based emergency response teams. If the government doesn't have the good sense to reestablish Civil Defense as a viable agency, we should take it upon ourselves. Why should people sit helplessly on their roofs waiting for rescue or be herded into a stadium or FEMA camps while the military goes door-to-door illegally confiscating guns as they did following a natural disaster like Hurricane Katrina. In addition to natural disasters, we now have the threat of terrorism to contend with. We need Civil Defense, not more expensive, ineffective government agencies like Homeland Defense which is doing little good and leaching away our rights.
We, especially we veterans, should be helping our communities organize and train militias to combat terrorism. Our military is very effective fighting terrorists at a distance, but how effective will they be if terrorism seeps into our communities?
We veterans should be helping veterans just as we helped one another on the battlefield. The Veterans Administration is broken and, just like all government agencies, it is politically resistant to repair. It may never be truly effective, efficient, or economical. Join the American Legion or the VFW or both and help.
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PO2 Bob Herr
I served 5 years as a navy interior communication electrician left as a E-5. I have now worked 9 years in a similar trade while still doing what I did for the military. I could not want to go back on ship as an E-4, as I could now do my job, an EMs and some what an IT's responsible for hardware. If the world completely went to shit that it came to that then yes I would.
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SGM (Join to see)
Absolutely... And, to be honest, I had a better time as a LTC than I did as a COL. Don't get me wrong, being a brigade commander and MACOM provost marshal were great, but being a battalion commander was better (from a being closer to the troops perspective). Hey, I'd rather go back in as a 2LT/1LT and be a platoon leader all over again (as long as I got the age reduction along with the rank reduction)... :-) :-)
I have a uniform set up and ready in my closet, just in case they call (although I'd probably have to have it let out a little). My dad kept a uniform hanging in his closet until the day he died at 88 years old. We both knew we would never again wear the uniform (at least, not on active duty), but it gave us pride to know it was there, as we were, just in case.
Absolutely... And, to be honest, I had a better time as a LTC than I did as a COL. Don't get me wrong, being a brigade commander and MACOM provost marshal were great, but being a battalion commander was better (from a being closer to the troops perspective). Hey, I'd rather go back in as a 2LT/1LT and be a platoon leader all over again (as long as I got the age reduction along with the rank reduction)... :-) :-)
I have a uniform set up and ready in my closet, just in case they call (although I'd probably have to have it let out a little). My dad kept a uniform hanging in his closet until the day he died at 88 years old. We both knew we would never again wear the uniform (at least, not on active duty), but it gave us pride to know it was there, as we were, just in case.
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LTC Paul Heinlein
COL Jean (John) F. B.,
Hey Sir, if you go back as a LT PL LDR, can I be one of your Squad Leaders? :) Paul
Hey Sir, if you go back as a LT PL LDR, can I be one of your Squad Leaders? :) Paul
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
LTC Paul Heinlein
Absolutely ... You just retired a couple of days ago. Ready to go back in already? :-)
Absolutely ... You just retired a couple of days ago. Ready to go back in already? :-)
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LTC Paul Heinlein
COL Jean (John) F. B.,
Absolutely.. As long as it is in the operational force and not in the generating force. TRADOC sucks the life out of people!
Absolutely.. As long as it is in the operational force and not in the generating force. TRADOC sucks the life out of people!
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I think that any of us that were serious about our service would gladly and with no doubts or regrets return to active duty if our country needed us. When I raised my hand and pledged my service and dedication to our country my oath did not have an expiration date. As long as I breath and can move about I am willing to support and defend in whatever capacity I am needed.
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I spent so much time as a SFC maybe I should have gone back down to SSG and tried to flank DA from another direction. I would go back in tomorrow as a no TIS/TIG SGT if they would let me! In no time I would be stuck right back at the SFC level.
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SFC Merino, some folk actually did that but returned in AGR status in a higher grade (Active Guard Reserve).
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SFC Boots Attaway
SFC Mark Merino , that is what I did when I went back in in 07. I had been out for a little over 22 years and they let me keep my E6 AND gave me a bonus. Talk about hard up. LOL I would still be in if I had not hurt my back on a patrol but I did get my 7 and was med retired in 13.
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SFC William Hutchinson
Absolutely, in a heart beat. However, I have tried and they wouldn't take this old fart since I was disabled and retired. I would crawl on the floor to get back in if I could.
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If America needed me again it would be a sorry state of affairs! To quote a song:
"I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was."
That said, sure. On 9/11 all I could think of is "I wonder if I could be a reservist and fly in flight refueling missions for the Air Force" (I don't think my back would take sleeping on a cot in a GP Medium anymore).
"I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was."
That said, sure. On 9/11 all I could think of is "I wonder if I could be a reservist and fly in flight refueling missions for the Air Force" (I don't think my back would take sleeping on a cot in a GP Medium anymore).
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SGT Edward Thomas
You got to sleep on a cot? My first 5 years I slept on the CHG(cold hard ground). It wasn't until I transferred to JCSE at MacDill AFB before I got to sleep in a cot. 3 of my first five years was in Alaska in 172d LIB/6th Inf Div(L)
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