Posted on Jul 10, 2015
Should basic training be the same across all Branches of service?
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While there are many similar needs between all branches of service, there are also some differences between all branches of service. So, let me pose a question to the question.... Is the marine Corps willing to give up the 10 weeks Basic Training AND give up the Crucible? Is the Navy willing to give up water training? Is the Army and Air Force willing to DO water training? Is the Air Force willing to do the high crawl/low crawl? I will answer this to some degree: Each branch has branch specific training requirements and/or traditions that they will not want to give up. Basic Training is also were each branch teaches their history (Long like the Army, Navy, MC, or short like AF). Unless you have some type of Basic Training that has "break out sessions" for branch specific training (ya, like THAT would work....) combining will not be an effective use of time, equipment, or funding.
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TSgt Thomas Monaghan
TSgt Thomas Monaghan - sorry typing error it should read "we do the low crawl in the USAF for the record" please disregard the above entry.
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Yes and No. If it was the same until a certain point. Basic was a nine week program then on to branch specific course...then yes I can see that. With the Joint fighting now a days it would help. BUT No because every branch has different missions.
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I agree, although I was disappointed with AF basic not even getting to shoot a real M16 but a modified 22lr I realized we really could not use that skill so it made sense not to waste $ on the training but it was disappointing to me.
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MAJ (Join to see)
They usually only do that in times of financial crisis. I believe in the mantra of "Train as You Fight" I do remember doing that in the very early eighties with the Army Reserve. I would be disappointed as well.
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Obvious answer is "Yes", but it may take years for the DOD services to meet the USCG standards.
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MAJ (Join to see)
The thing is Richard....there would be only one adopted standard for all. Some will come up, some will come down...but same across the board. I just think the services are too resistant to change...not a new story for any large organization...takes a lot of work, persistence and patience...which Nobody is willing to do...It will take an absolutely amazing leader to make happen...which we will likely never see...IMHO
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This question has already been answered by the services. The answer was no.
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MAJ (Join to see)
It would require a major Transformation....and Transformation is never easy, especially when you have Old Dogs running the show, with no vision for the future and set in their political ways. I believe it will have to change eventually.
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Basically; Basic Training is and should be the same with equal standards across services - make it the same to encourage equality in the uniformed services.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
Much-appreciated Morris. We preach equality, yet only a few practice it; our law claims all are equal, yet treatment is with prejudice. Why preach, if we can't abide by our own words??
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I think it's an interesting question -- and superficially would seem to make sense. However, SrA Vong's response is well put -- our Services use our training to impart our Services' individual values to our trainees in ways that will make them fit in as they move into permanent party positions. As a guy who's had lots of Joint experience, I've found that our military's core concepts are shared throughout the military even though each initial training is different.
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