Posted on Mar 13, 2016
Should disqualification from donating blood, due to service-related reasons, count for VA disability?
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How many of you know that because of your tour in many European locations such as Germany during certain time frames disqualifies you from donating blood?. So why doesn't VA rate us as being partially poisoned during our tour?.
Posted 10 y ago
Responses: 24
SSG, this is right off of the American Red Cross Blood Donation site. As someone who served on my regional blood board, has given over 150 times and was in the military, I am familiar with this issue.
vCJD or Variant Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease related to the Mad Cow Desease is found in the countries listed below. The deferral does not mean that there is a likelihood that you have it or have been exposed to it, just that currently there is no way to screen for it. The Red Cross screens every blood donation to the highest standards of the blood industry. A lot of community blood banks can charge less for blood because they don't do all the tests the the Red Cross Performs. That does't make their blood less safer, but because it is gathered and used locally, they can determine what risks they might not have to screen for. Red Cross Blood gets shipped nationally and internationally as needed. Long answer but I hope this helps. Thank you for your service.
In-Depth Discussion of Variant Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease and Blood Donation
In some parts of the world, cattle can get an infectious, fatal brain disease called Mad Cow Disease. In these same locations, humans have started to get a new disease called variant Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease (vCJD) which is also a fatal brain disease. Scientists believe that vCJD is Mad Cow Disease that has somehow transferred to humans, possibly through the food chain.
There is now evidence from a small number of case reports involving patients and laboratory animal studies that vCJD can be transmitted through transfusion.
There is no test for vCJD in humans that could be used to screen blood donors and to protect the blood supply. This means that blood programs must take special precautions to keep vCJD out of the blood supply by avoiding collections from those who have been where this disease is found.
At this time, the American Red Cross donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if:
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in the United Kingdom (UK), or
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any country(ies) in the (UK) or France. The UK includes any of the countries listed below.
Channel Islands
England
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Isle of Man
Northern Ireland
Scotland
Wales
You were a member of the of the U.S. military, a civilian military employee, or a dependent of a member of the U.S. military who spent a total time of 6 months on or associated with a military base in any of the following areas during the specified time frames
From 1980 through 1990 - Belgium, the Netherlands (Holland), or Germany
From 1980 through 1996 - Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Italy or Greece.
You spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 5 years or more from January 1, 1980, to present, in any combination of country(ies) in Europe, including
in the UK from 1980 through 1996 as listed above
on or associated with military bases as described above, and
in other countries in Europe as listed below:
Albania
Austria
Belgium
Bosnia/Herzegovina
Bulgaria
Croatia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Ireland (Republic of)
Italy
Kosovo (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia)
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Montenegro (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia)
Netherlands (Holland)
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Serbia (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia)
Slovak Republic (Slovakia)
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
Yugoslavia (Federal Republic includes Kosovo, Montenegro, and Serbia)
vCJD or Variant Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease related to the Mad Cow Desease is found in the countries listed below. The deferral does not mean that there is a likelihood that you have it or have been exposed to it, just that currently there is no way to screen for it. The Red Cross screens every blood donation to the highest standards of the blood industry. A lot of community blood banks can charge less for blood because they don't do all the tests the the Red Cross Performs. That does't make their blood less safer, but because it is gathered and used locally, they can determine what risks they might not have to screen for. Red Cross Blood gets shipped nationally and internationally as needed. Long answer but I hope this helps. Thank you for your service.
In-Depth Discussion of Variant Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease and Blood Donation
In some parts of the world, cattle can get an infectious, fatal brain disease called Mad Cow Disease. In these same locations, humans have started to get a new disease called variant Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease (vCJD) which is also a fatal brain disease. Scientists believe that vCJD is Mad Cow Disease that has somehow transferred to humans, possibly through the food chain.
There is now evidence from a small number of case reports involving patients and laboratory animal studies that vCJD can be transmitted through transfusion.
There is no test for vCJD in humans that could be used to screen blood donors and to protect the blood supply. This means that blood programs must take special precautions to keep vCJD out of the blood supply by avoiding collections from those who have been where this disease is found.
At this time, the American Red Cross donor eligibility rules related to vCJD are as follows:
You are not eligible to donate if:
From January 1, 1980, through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more, in the United Kingdom (UK), or
From January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any country(ies) in the (UK) or France. The UK includes any of the countries listed below.
Channel Islands
England
Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Isle of Man
Northern Ireland
Scotland
Wales
You were a member of the of the U.S. military, a civilian military employee, or a dependent of a member of the U.S. military who spent a total time of 6 months on or associated with a military base in any of the following areas during the specified time frames
From 1980 through 1990 - Belgium, the Netherlands (Holland), or Germany
From 1980 through 1996 - Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Italy or Greece.
You spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 5 years or more from January 1, 1980, to present, in any combination of country(ies) in Europe, including
in the UK from 1980 through 1996 as listed above
on or associated with military bases as described above, and
in other countries in Europe as listed below:
Albania
Austria
Belgium
Bosnia/Herzegovina
Bulgaria
Croatia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Ireland (Republic of)
Italy
Kosovo (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia)
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Montenegro (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia)
Netherlands (Holland)
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Serbia (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia)
Slovak Republic (Slovakia)
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
Yugoslavia (Federal Republic includes Kosovo, Montenegro, and Serbia)
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SGM Mikel Dawson
Amazing reading this thread. I was talking with one of my customers yesterday. He told me his son came down with Jacob's disease this past October.
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CSM William Payne
Sorry to hear that Sergeant Major. Haven't really done much research on the options for treatment of vCJD. What's the prognosis?
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SSG Rick Robbins
There is no treatment. They can treat symptoms. There is genetic factors in some that causes them to developed the disease, on the other hand Mad Cow disease is caused by mold spores. The only way to diagnose it is on autopsy, and it is so contagious that if you do not have a filtered mask on and the head is opened, the spores will, did not say can, infest you and then it is TAPS. I was in Bosnia in 94/95, and I ran a CR for field U.NPROFER. Hospital. When we got the news on it, we got trained. In the whole scheme of this chances are low, but for those who have it the spread rate is horrible... Doc Robbins
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CSM William Payne
Ugh, not good. Thanks for the education. Now I know why the Red Cross is so concerned about it. Much appreciated.
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I know that it used to be a disqualifier for donating blood to simply be outside the US in the past 2 years. I think its not a disability, its just a cost saving measure by the ARC so they dont have to pay to screen samples.
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I have been unable to donate blood for many years. I was a regular donor.
I can not see how that is a disability.
I can not see how that is a disability.
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SSG Erick Diaz
Didn't say it was. I said it should be rated and recognized. Rating doesn't habe to be a disability. For example I have ratings of zero % for scars
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SFC A.M. Drake
SSG Erick Diaz - So if you just want it to be recognized then have you contacted your congressman or senator to see what they think? You know in all honesty it sounds like you have an agenda to scam the system I'll just call it like it is.
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Does it adversely affect your day-to-day life? That's the real question. Not being able to give blood doesn't. You can live normally. It's not a "Disability" (Lack of ability) that could be qualified with a monetary figure or percentage (at 10% or greater).
Not all "conditions" are going to trigger the "disability" status.
Not all "conditions" are going to trigger the "disability" status.
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CPT Pedro Meza
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - I will translate for you, they do not want your blood, period, and I would not want your blood either, cause that means you are inside of me and I will post like you! Humor is good.
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SSG Stephen Arnold
What if a family member needs blood and we have a blood drive to support them? Not being able to donate COULD be detrimental. Donors CAN designate credit to a recipient.
Just offering a different scenario.
Just offering a different scenario.
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Sgt Stephen Murphy
If you were exposed to something that caused you to be unable to donate, even if you do not have symptoms that adversely affect you, you can still qualify for disability. You would be rated at a low level (even 0%) which would increase if your condition changed.
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A1C Melissa Jackson
Well, no.
Is this an issue these days? Until I started taking enough medicine to knock out a cow I gave blood regularly.
Is this an issue these days? Until I started taking enough medicine to knock out a cow I gave blood regularly.
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I agree. I can't give because mad cow came out while I was in Germany.
My thyroid is screwed too because chernobyle went up while I was there too.
But VA says it has nothing to do with me.
My thyroid is screwed too because chernobyle went up while I was there too.
But VA says it has nothing to do with me.
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Because you're not poisoned. Look I was over in Germany during the timeframe of mad cow disease first got started. Now am I sick because of mad cow....heck no! Do I have some latent gene that is pre mad cow? Heck no! And I'm still serving no issues. I even went to a Red Cross van last year just to inquire and they had a big book and guess what? It's still there. So unless you can prove that you gotten sick over there because of contaminated beef, then you would have to provide proof. I don't have proof because I'm not sick not we're any of my friends that were over there during that time
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SFC A.M. Drake
Then they must go to another family member...look I have O+ universal donor! So does my family...no issues. There are just too many ways to get blood these days
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I didn't know that, but I never deployed outside CONUS during my terms of service. The closest I got was two ARNG annual trainings to the border between the Mexican State of Tijuana and San Diego County, CA. I was down there in 2000 and 2001. Before the May 2000 trip we had to have all the shots like one would get deploying to the tropics. Seems because the proximity to Mexico deployment to San Diego County means you get the full Tropical Battery of Shots. I was down there in support of the construction of the existing border fence with the 242nd Engineer Company back then out of Wichita, KS.
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