Posted on Feb 5, 2015
Should medically retired get the same certificate as those that did 20+?
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Should people who are medically retired from the service receive the same retirement certificate as those that did the required 20 years or more?
I felt compelled to edit my original post due to the inability of people to decipher its intended message. Nowhere in the original post was I recommending nor advocating diminishing the quality of anyone’s service, in fact I stated that those that served honorably deserve due recognition.
Unfortunately people were so passionate about the subject that they failed to realize that I was actually defending those that served honorably against those that are shirking the system in order to obtain medical retirement.
In short I was merely advocating a different retirement certificate for those that completed the requisite 20 years versus those that didn’t. This is no way makes the service any less valuable it merely allows people to differentiate. However the onslaught of down votes has only re-enforced the fact that voicing your opinion on social media is the fastest way to create a riot despite the failure of the intended targets ability to translate its content.
I felt compelled to edit my original post due to the inability of people to decipher its intended message. Nowhere in the original post was I recommending nor advocating diminishing the quality of anyone’s service, in fact I stated that those that served honorably deserve due recognition.
Unfortunately people were so passionate about the subject that they failed to realize that I was actually defending those that served honorably against those that are shirking the system in order to obtain medical retirement.
In short I was merely advocating a different retirement certificate for those that completed the requisite 20 years versus those that didn’t. This is no way makes the service any less valuable it merely allows people to differentiate. However the onslaught of down votes has only re-enforced the fact that voicing your opinion on social media is the fastest way to create a riot despite the failure of the intended targets ability to translate its content.
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I would just like a DD 215 that I can read. I was retired in 1991, retroactive to 1987. I had already been called up for Iraq. Glad I didn't go and get killed
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I was at 16 years when the Army said I was too broken to continue...I was also high on a lot of drugs so hard to argue. But yes.
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WTF is wrong with you? I cant imagine anyone other than a REMF that would feel this way.
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Why does it have to be "different". As a member that had little to no use of a right arm after three surgeries, it was time to go. It amazes me what people on this forum seem to ignore. If a Soldier chooses to stick around and endure pain and ridicule of a profile, that is Honor, Courage and Commitment. Just like the, new Soldier wearing multi cam issue a few months back. Why could they not wear multi cam? Opinion often becomes law in the Army until you are told what is common sense and what is not. I don't want it, but common sense tells me one year, ten years, or nineteen point five, there are Soldiers that earned that piece of paper through service and should get it out of "Loyalty to those with whom I serve, seniors, peers, and subordinates alike. Just my opinion.
I also want to add that one must be diagnosed by a medically professional and seen by specialist in order to go thru an MEB, then have a max of 5 years as TDRL in order to go thru a PEB. These medical boards are no joke. A service members condition is watched carefully and he or she remains under a doctors care and monitored. Just cause you stubbed your toe doesn't get you medically retired. I truly believe unless your a dr then you need to keep your trap shut. Stay in your own lane. If you are and think a SM with a service connected physical
Or mental disqualifier or pre existing condition agribated by service shouldn't receive the same retirement piece of paper you would at 20 years someone higher needs to remove you from duty as a military medical professional.
Or mental disqualifier or pre existing condition agribated by service shouldn't receive the same retirement piece of paper you would at 20 years someone higher needs to remove you from duty as a military medical professional.
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You're just mad that my retirement check after 13 years is 75% of my base pay and your will only be 50% of yours! i don't know what this so called "retirement certificate" is since I have not received one. I can tell you however what it was like at age 34 to have my mother brush my hair and put it in a bun for me (she only has use of one hand herself) , but my here wool socks on my feet as I screamed in pain, and attempted to properly tie my combat boots so I could report to fit on time via an hour commute. What it was like to not be able to
Wipe my own ass. Spend the witching hours in the local emergency room at least once a week in pain off the pain scale, get released after IV pain killers, go home and have mom repeat trying to get me ready to report to duty on time. Con leave denied on every level of the NJ Army National Guard command (I was active guard, full timer). If I were to get such a piece of paper you can piss on that one while you piss on SFC Merino's. I was a 92G,volunteered to cross train F5 so I would be a gainfully employed by my unit when we deployed even though It was against the Army Regs for me to carry such an Identifier (I passed over phase 2 of BNoc to do so). Upon returning competed for a full time slot in Logistics for Plan and Operations of State Emergencies. ( a bit of the last 4 years of my career) plus ADSW for nearly two years, 15 month activation (12 mo this boots on ground).
But let me enlighten you all that crap, all those medals and ribbons and badges and that piece of paper mean jack when you retire! It doesn't get you a job, it doesn't raise your retirement pay, it doesn't get you a better parking spot, it doesn't get you better service at Mc Donald's so what the fuck does it matter it I retired after 13 years or 33 years. I retired. I have a blue ID card, can use the on base MWR and stores and gas station, I can fly Space A. So that piece of paper would only be of value if I was lost in the woods surrounded by poison ivy and I had to wipe my ass.
Wipe my own ass. Spend the witching hours in the local emergency room at least once a week in pain off the pain scale, get released after IV pain killers, go home and have mom repeat trying to get me ready to report to duty on time. Con leave denied on every level of the NJ Army National Guard command (I was active guard, full timer). If I were to get such a piece of paper you can piss on that one while you piss on SFC Merino's. I was a 92G,volunteered to cross train F5 so I would be a gainfully employed by my unit when we deployed even though It was against the Army Regs for me to carry such an Identifier (I passed over phase 2 of BNoc to do so). Upon returning competed for a full time slot in Logistics for Plan and Operations of State Emergencies. ( a bit of the last 4 years of my career) plus ADSW for nearly two years, 15 month activation (12 mo this boots on ground).
But let me enlighten you all that crap, all those medals and ribbons and badges and that piece of paper mean jack when you retire! It doesn't get you a job, it doesn't raise your retirement pay, it doesn't get you a better parking spot, it doesn't get you better service at Mc Donald's so what the fuck does it matter it I retired after 13 years or 33 years. I retired. I have a blue ID card, can use the on base MWR and stores and gas station, I can fly Space A. So that piece of paper would only be of value if I was lost in the woods surrounded by poison ivy and I had to wipe my ass.
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17.5 years of service medically retired and never received my flag....... What I do receive is 70% of Captains pay at over 16 years of service. So the paper document I'd really irrelevant to me.
However I do have an issue in that a person with just over 2.5 years more service than I do can "regular" retired get out file a claim in the VA and receive concurrent receipt of both Military retired pay AND VA disability where as I have dollar for dollar deducted from my military pay for every dollar of VA disability.
However I do have an issue in that a person with just over 2.5 years more service than I do can "regular" retired get out file a claim in the VA and receive concurrent receipt of both Military retired pay AND VA disability where as I have dollar for dollar deducted from my military pay for every dollar of VA disability.
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