Should the cadence calling be left to the enlisted and NCO's?

The only time I've called cadence is when the NCO's weren't getting it done. I believe that's NCO business and it's a good way to build confidence and a warrior voice that can be heard above the din of battle. As with everything though, if the NCO's don't get it done, it becomes officer business.

This is a silly question. Everyone knows that officers aren't fast enough to keep up with the NCO's anyway. So who cares if they call cadence....no one will hear it. (Thats right I said it! Now bring it!)

OH HELL NO! O's need to stay out of the cadence business! I'm with SSG Brad Porter on this one...if your NCO's are permitting O's to call cadence ALL of the NCO's in that run - from the Top E-9 to bottom rung NCO should be lined up and B!yachi $lapped - once on each cheek!

O's - stay with the crayons! Stay outa NCO business!

Nuff said....off soapbox

Continue the big suck

Cadence is NCO business.

As long as the troops are motivated, I personally don't think it matters. With that said.... NCOS need to get out there so other don't have to do it.

My LT called cadence quite often. Not only do I think it shouldn't be a "no-go" but I think it should be a requirement. Part of calling cadence is keeping everyone in synch. To borrow a term from Corporate world, it is "Synergy". There is bonding in singing funny, or pride filled cadence, and including your Officer in on that is essential. Officers are part the platoon, and that bond/cohesion needs to be fostered with them just as much as with NCO's.

Seeing your Officers segregate themselves in every aspect leads to discontent.

That is just my opinion.

In an aviation unit (officer and warrant officer heavy), I've noticed two things. First, cadence is known by only a select few. Second, on a long, BN level or higher run, because of only a select few being skilled in the art of cadence calling, it reverts to whoever knows one gets out there and executes. While PT/cadence is usually NCO driven, if they want to be the only ones calling cadence, they need to ensure that they are on their game and capable of keeping it going throughout the whole run. If we get to a point where the NCO/enlisted level has exausted their supply of cadence and/or motivation, I have no problem with a motivated WO or Officer stepping up.

I remember as a young Platoon Leader when the Soldier responsible for PT that day didn't have a plan and I stepped up and led the morning session--it ensured that my Platoon Sergeant took responsibility for the program and never again did I have any problems with the NCO/enlisted not being prepared to lead PT.

Though it rarely happened ( can count on one hand) I had no problem with an Officer jumping out there to call PT. In fact it made one less to gaggle at the rear of the formation anyway. However, I did not allow it to go on for a long period of time. After a few minutes I simply yelled out, "Thank You Sir!", either took over myself or called out one of NCOs to take over. I feel it was a good motivator plus it allowed me to pour a little gas on any NCO who didn't like it, yet did not have their ass out there already.

It should be left to the NCOs, but let's call it what it is. We have a lot of NCOs who cannot call cadences because they don't know how to

The few times I've seen an officer get out and call cadence were on long runs after ALL NCOs had a turn, or when specifically called on (challenged) by the 1SG to do so. The latter case was pre-arranged before the run, and the officer in question was a former drill sergeant.

Never saw a problem with it in those situations. Officers shouldn't get out there as a matter of habit, but occasionally and under the right circumstances it can be a morale booster.