Posted on Mar 27, 2015
SNCO, Warrant Officer, or Commissioned Officers; Who is most respected?
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Who is more highly respected? A Senior Non-Commissioned Officer, A Warrant Officer, or a Commissioned Officer? And Why do you believe this?
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You need an "other" category.
Junior enlisted should be the most highly respected service members. Without them what would the other three ass clowns do?
Junior enlisted should be the most highly respected service members. Without them what would the other three ass clowns do?
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SGT (Join to see) - this post is older than dirt and this guy wants to come in spouting all this crap. Just proves the assclown reference.
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CSM (Join to see) - understood. Hes in the Air Force though, so I expect nothing less. You, however, are a Sergeant Major in my beloved Army.
If your pants accidentally became unbloused and you didn’t realize it, I’d say, “hey SGM, quick heads up”...then I’d kinda eye motion down to your feet. Hopefully, you’d quickly realize what was happening, and all would be right in the world again.
This is same thing. You get it. I get it. But this isn’t Facebook. I look at RP as kind of an unprecedented repository of military information and knowledge that troops have never previously had access to. As you’re a current service member, you set the standard here, just as you do in your 10m, 100m, and 1000m bubbles.
If you can’t just disregard the town clown (I’m looking at you, Jason Hager), as Senior NCOs, take it to private messages so younger joes on RP who are looking for guidance and development don’t get the wrong idea of what “right” should look like.
Just the opinion of a retired NCO...
If your pants accidentally became unbloused and you didn’t realize it, I’d say, “hey SGM, quick heads up”...then I’d kinda eye motion down to your feet. Hopefully, you’d quickly realize what was happening, and all would be right in the world again.
This is same thing. You get it. I get it. But this isn’t Facebook. I look at RP as kind of an unprecedented repository of military information and knowledge that troops have never previously had access to. As you’re a current service member, you set the standard here, just as you do in your 10m, 100m, and 1000m bubbles.
If you can’t just disregard the town clown (I’m looking at you, Jason Hager), as Senior NCOs, take it to private messages so younger joes on RP who are looking for guidance and development don’t get the wrong idea of what “right” should look like.
Just the opinion of a retired NCO...
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SGT (Join to see) - I'm retired brother not active duty. I don't get on here much since I retired. Rally Point use to be really cool but I had to bail for obvious reasons.
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CSM (Join to see) - my apologies, you’re listed as current service member. And I agree. Certain folks on RP tend to get FBish real quick. (Heck I’m sure I’m guilty of it at least once).
Best of luck to you, sir.
Best of luck to you, sir.
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I didn't vote because I do not believe that any one of these categories are highly respected. You can respect a position with out respecting the man/woman; Respect for a person is earned. There are great Soldiers at every level.
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SGT Chris Reese
I agree. Respect is earned for each level. However I noticed during my time that most SM'S had more respect for WO's than most CO's
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"Mustangs", enlisted members that transfer to officer and stay in their original field of expertise.
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I believe senior NCOs are the most respected overall. My Air Force and joint service experience shows that most all officers and most junior enlisted members highly respect senior NCOs, most specifically those in Command Sergeant Major type positions. My "sample" is about 20 of these types of NCOs I've met. They all have major experience credentials in their specialty as well as well honed leadership skills. As a young officer I learned a lot from the senior NCO aircrew members I flew with. We had flight engineer E-8s and E-9s who knew more about the C-130 than the guys at Lockheed who built it, and they had crewed it in combat (Viet Nam era). When I became more experienced, it was great to have a senior NCO in whom I had great confidence. When asked to get something done, he made it happen. As an Army Civilian, I found every CSM I met was very interested in taking care of the soldiers in their command, being their mentor and spokesperson--real leaders. I was very impressed that the CSMs were also interested in the well being of the DACs in the organization.
One disclaimer: I can't speak to their professionalism or leadership of Warrant Officers. Air Force doesn't have them and I met fewer than a dozen from the other services in my time. Never really worked with a Warrant.
One disclaimer: I can't speak to their professionalism or leadership of Warrant Officers. Air Force doesn't have them and I met fewer than a dozen from the other services in my time. Never really worked with a Warrant.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
Lt Col Jim Coe Army Warrents are ‘good people’! Most. of the. ones I met were Aviators! Anytime, anywhere! I always trusted them!
At the funeral services for our Motor Warrent, eneryone was surprised at my referring to him as Mr Rodarte! I knew his first name,was Issac and used it in private!
At the funeral services for our Motor Warrent, eneryone was surprised at my referring to him as Mr Rodarte! I knew his first name,was Issac and used it in private!
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
When i first arrived at MCGuire in spring of ‘71 and met a CW4 who had just come out of Services Section and was temporarily reassigned to HQ Sq. And was in a advisory position and went around doling our technical advice . He knew quite a bit about different subjects.. (the way things were supposed to be operated) We had a really good Food Service section and that was where he was at. We now had a SMSGT with a Chief’s Line number... The CWO was sharp and handed over the reins.. He didn’t seem to feel let down that his position got turned over to a SMSGT who would soon be Chief.. He told us he could to the new Chief to be knew his stuff about Food Service.. a recent ‘Nam Vet.. he’d Been to Tan Son Nhut and told us what was going on over there.. he had some classes on the field kitchen equipment.. he wasn’t afraid to get his hands soiled and a little dirt under his nails.. I was in a class we had on the M-59 field kitchen unit.. I don’t remember if he thought I wasn’t paying attention.. he’d called on me to explain building pressure on the M2 burner range and what to check if there was blockage .. I did all that .. an NCO that was there had been Star-gazing.. Chief to be called on him to re-enforce what A1C Herrst had just explained ... “what do I need to re-enforce?” He asked. He seemed to be in the outfield in that sit-rep..
Later him and the chief to-be snd the Lt. had an extended conversation on the workings of the M-59 kit.. and M-2 burner unit..
He got some OJT time going through our deployment units and opening them and inventorying and cleaning them.. I dug out some coveralls and my old shoes and went where they were stored and helped him .. I was off next day.. so I could sleep in.. he had to be to duty at 1000 hrs.. We worked until 2300 or there abouts.. we cleaned e’thing and they were all in working order.. We put some mo-gas in a couple.. enough tolite then burned it off.. checked the tanks and they were damp.. We had a swab on a wire plunger and pushed it in and dried the two tanks out. Then washed that swab off of fuel and hung it to dry...
The next day Chief to be asked how long was it before he was finished.. he told him about 2300... that quick he was asked.. befor C2b could say s’thing he told him I had showed up and helped him.. w/o being asked... “No other volunteers, no other buds? Shame on them.!” He had a little meeting a few days later when he could get us all together.. he hit on esprit d Corps and having each other’s back in all kinds of conditions.. he asked w’body except me, because he knew where I was that day.... the others on our shift were made to feel they let their comrade down ..
You can do what you want to appease the hurt feeling, but can’t be undone.. maybe. The damage is done. Guys were trying to do him favors ... take his CQs and NCOD’s ... NCOD switch had to be cleared through base... all it did was give him an extension. Til he got scheduled again.. He got orders to Germany.. so somebody else caught the NCOD.. enjoyed CQ runner.. or NCOD runner.. That was a long haul.. 1630 to 0800 next
Morning.. I got it on a Tuesday afternoon and had it to 0800 Wednesday morn’g. My scheduled days off was Thursday and Friday. My late shift day at Airman’s Dining Facility had been that Tuesday I worked late shift 1000-1900. so I traded a grueling 9 hours for a light
17-1/2 hour day.. my supervisor let me go at 1500 so I could get shined up bodywise.. So back to bks and
Clean-up. That took about 15 minutes or so.. my Runner Duty Uniform that night would be Fatigues.. that meant we were ripe for a ORI.. We already had an order for meat and cheese n bread trays..
to start Command Post’s Duty shift
With.. those came after I got relieved.. that had been my job to set up. They still had to get all the goodies to go on the trays.. together. That could be a chore. I handled by working on it at the baker’s kitchen and lock’g the doors. I could work in reasonable
Peace and NOT have people raiding my trays... and i’d Lock them in the baker’s walk-in reefer.. Since I wouldn’t be doing them.. it would be heck.. on the soul who drew that straw.. the Siren for ORI sounded that night.. So much for my days off following the next day I could get to rest.. at 2100 they closed the ORI., it wasn’t a ORI at all but a alert set off by a bear bomber flying right on the 12 mi. Line.. So I got my 2 days off.. s’thing told me in my head to stay in bed and rest.. Sure enough about 10 s’body knocked.. it was that Sqdn Duty NCO making sure I didn’t go galavanting off to NYC or Philly.. he came back 1630... you can go wherever you want.. Oh really, I thought to myself.. how charming..
I think I got 5 to 6 hours sleep.. not all at one time but spirts... through the day.. and 1Sgt even loaned me a day sleeper sign... that didn’t stop that duty Sgt... knock knock. You awake?” “ no, I’m playing whist with my shadow !”.... “ No, My psychiatrist dropped by to .. !”
And i’d Hear him unlocking the door.. he’d look in and i’d be Trying to sleep.. oh nice.. now I get to get up and go relieve myself.. may as well.. I make sure I got my keys.. go do business and back to bed.. that guy stays until get back... “what’s Matta Sarge, ‘fraid I’d Make a detour to Philly ?... So back to bed.. i’m More tired than in the morn when I first lay down.. hmm..
Later him and the chief to-be snd the Lt. had an extended conversation on the workings of the M-59 kit.. and M-2 burner unit..
He got some OJT time going through our deployment units and opening them and inventorying and cleaning them.. I dug out some coveralls and my old shoes and went where they were stored and helped him .. I was off next day.. so I could sleep in.. he had to be to duty at 1000 hrs.. We worked until 2300 or there abouts.. we cleaned e’thing and they were all in working order.. We put some mo-gas in a couple.. enough tolite then burned it off.. checked the tanks and they were damp.. We had a swab on a wire plunger and pushed it in and dried the two tanks out. Then washed that swab off of fuel and hung it to dry...
The next day Chief to be asked how long was it before he was finished.. he told him about 2300... that quick he was asked.. befor C2b could say s’thing he told him I had showed up and helped him.. w/o being asked... “No other volunteers, no other buds? Shame on them.!” He had a little meeting a few days later when he could get us all together.. he hit on esprit d Corps and having each other’s back in all kinds of conditions.. he asked w’body except me, because he knew where I was that day.... the others on our shift were made to feel they let their comrade down ..
You can do what you want to appease the hurt feeling, but can’t be undone.. maybe. The damage is done. Guys were trying to do him favors ... take his CQs and NCOD’s ... NCOD switch had to be cleared through base... all it did was give him an extension. Til he got scheduled again.. He got orders to Germany.. so somebody else caught the NCOD.. enjoyed CQ runner.. or NCOD runner.. That was a long haul.. 1630 to 0800 next
Morning.. I got it on a Tuesday afternoon and had it to 0800 Wednesday morn’g. My scheduled days off was Thursday and Friday. My late shift day at Airman’s Dining Facility had been that Tuesday I worked late shift 1000-1900. so I traded a grueling 9 hours for a light
17-1/2 hour day.. my supervisor let me go at 1500 so I could get shined up bodywise.. So back to bks and
Clean-up. That took about 15 minutes or so.. my Runner Duty Uniform that night would be Fatigues.. that meant we were ripe for a ORI.. We already had an order for meat and cheese n bread trays..
to start Command Post’s Duty shift
With.. those came after I got relieved.. that had been my job to set up. They still had to get all the goodies to go on the trays.. together. That could be a chore. I handled by working on it at the baker’s kitchen and lock’g the doors. I could work in reasonable
Peace and NOT have people raiding my trays... and i’d Lock them in the baker’s walk-in reefer.. Since I wouldn’t be doing them.. it would be heck.. on the soul who drew that straw.. the Siren for ORI sounded that night.. So much for my days off following the next day I could get to rest.. at 2100 they closed the ORI., it wasn’t a ORI at all but a alert set off by a bear bomber flying right on the 12 mi. Line.. So I got my 2 days off.. s’thing told me in my head to stay in bed and rest.. Sure enough about 10 s’body knocked.. it was that Sqdn Duty NCO making sure I didn’t go galavanting off to NYC or Philly.. he came back 1630... you can go wherever you want.. Oh really, I thought to myself.. how charming..
I think I got 5 to 6 hours sleep.. not all at one time but spirts... through the day.. and 1Sgt even loaned me a day sleeper sign... that didn’t stop that duty Sgt... knock knock. You awake?” “ no, I’m playing whist with my shadow !”.... “ No, My psychiatrist dropped by to .. !”
And i’d Hear him unlocking the door.. he’d look in and i’d be Trying to sleep.. oh nice.. now I get to get up and go relieve myself.. may as well.. I make sure I got my keys.. go do business and back to bed.. that guy stays until get back... “what’s Matta Sarge, ‘fraid I’d Make a detour to Philly ?... So back to bed.. i’m More tired than in the morn when I first lay down.. hmm..
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
Mr. Would be the correct lead to go with the name. CSM Charles H.
Of course you would be correct in that address. That 1st year at McGuire after I transferred from the
AF Reserve was the last I seen Any W.O.s. Except at Air shows on Base
Usually they wore a blazer and gray trousers and their Miniature tank pin. A few I seen wore a regular size
Or Medium size pin with an AF name tag.. on their blazers.. I was deployed over a holiday air show that was had on 11 Nov...
Of course you would be correct in that address. That 1st year at McGuire after I transferred from the
AF Reserve was the last I seen Any W.O.s. Except at Air shows on Base
Usually they wore a blazer and gray trousers and their Miniature tank pin. A few I seen wore a regular size
Or Medium size pin with an AF name tag.. on their blazers.. I was deployed over a holiday air show that was had on 11 Nov...
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Since these are the only 3 choices I chose SNCO. They're the ones who ensure the job actually gets done.
The "junior" enlisteds though are the ones who do the real work.
The "junior" enlisteds though are the ones who do the real work.
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I have to agree with Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS. It really depends on the person in the position, but it also depends on the service you're in. The Navy puts a ton of faith in the Chief Petty Officers. The Marines in the Staff NCOs but also in the senior officer ranks as well. From my time as an enlisted soldier in the Army, we really looked up to the Warrants. But the person wearing each rank has a huge bearing on the amount of respect that is given. I've run into people in my career that would have had my respect because of the character of the person no matter if they were wearing the lowest enlisted rank or 4 stars on their shoulders. I've also dealt with people for whom I respected the rank on their shoulders or the particular position within the chain of command that they held, but the individual got no respect because of the type of person they were.
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CPT Barbara Smith
LT Guilliams, I completely agree with your post. Even though I do not know much about the U.S. Navy, I am proud to have married one who was a CPO, nuke, and at 6'4" - he served on a submarine. I went to Charleston, SC and couldn't go inside the submarine but I proudly walked onto the ship. I wanted to pretend that I was a US Navy nurse who worked on the Mercy ship and wore those beautiful uniforms.
Today, I continue to laugh about why I chose to enter the Army as opposed to the other branches. I feared I would get seasick so the Navy was out. I have never enjoyed flying unless it was in an Army helicopter so the Air Force was not an option. Then, I studied the different Nurse Corps, and that was when I knew that the U.S. Army Nurse Corps was a perfect fit for me.
Today, I continue to laugh about why I chose to enter the Army as opposed to the other branches. I feared I would get seasick so the Navy was out. I have never enjoyed flying unless it was in an Army helicopter so the Air Force was not an option. Then, I studied the different Nurse Corps, and that was when I knew that the U.S. Army Nurse Corps was a perfect fit for me.
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Each position (rank) is respected. There are different caveats to each level. Senior NCOS are the technical experts, and we must know everyone's job, in the Navy we are the liaison between the Enlisted and the Officers, we also guide and mentor our junior Officers into making the proper decisions.
In the Navy you cannot become a Warrant Officer without first being a Chief Petty Officer. Navy "Warrants" are Subject Matter Experts for their particular area. Warrants are well respected, as they would not be where they were without being extremely well versed in their area of expertise.
Officers have positional respect, but in most cases the Officer needs to prove themselves to the crew. If they have a good Chief to guide and mentor them they will learn what they need to do and how to take care of their crew and mission. Some of the best Officers are Mustangs, but in the same breath, some of the worst Officers to mentor are E-6's that did not get picked up for Chief Petty Officer, but did get picked up for Officer. They are very stubborn.
In the Navy you cannot become a Warrant Officer without first being a Chief Petty Officer. Navy "Warrants" are Subject Matter Experts for their particular area. Warrants are well respected, as they would not be where they were without being extremely well versed in their area of expertise.
Officers have positional respect, but in most cases the Officer needs to prove themselves to the crew. If they have a good Chief to guide and mentor them they will learn what they need to do and how to take care of their crew and mission. Some of the best Officers are Mustangs, but in the same breath, some of the worst Officers to mentor are E-6's that did not get picked up for Chief Petty Officer, but did get picked up for Officer. They are very stubborn.
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The WO has the experience of the Enlisted, remembers his enlisted days, and also has the authority of the officer! In other words....he has the know-how to get the job done, the experience and maturity to know when it's BS, and the horsepower to make it happen!
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No doubt that's true in the Navy. In the Army, many warrant officers are helicopter pilots, and they don't even have to be prior enlisted to become one.
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The follow view, although that it is factual, maybe a little biased based off of my career field and position, lol.
Please don’t judge all Warrant Officers based off of the pilots. I have a lot of respect for what they do but when it comes to being a multi-functional leader with the experience of a senior NCO, a technical knowledge that can’t be match by many and the enhanced capability to also lead troops from a command perspective, the technical Warrant Officers can do it all.
The follow view, although that it is factual, maybe a little biased based off of my career field and position, lol.
Please don’t judge all Warrant Officers based off of the pilots. I have a lot of respect for what they do but when it comes to being a multi-functional leader with the experience of a senior NCO, a technical knowledge that can’t be match by many and the enhanced capability to also lead troops from a command perspective, the technical Warrant Officers can do it all.
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CWO2 Richard Rose
Petty Officer Doan, all warrant officers in the Navy are commissioned officers and are referred to as officers and not categorized as something different.
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SGT (Join to see) - For the most part, this only applies to pilots (and not even all pilots). There are just as many technician jobs and those Warrant Officers are almost always prior senior NCOs (E7+) or senior E6s (at a minimum). There are of course, in some MOSs, a few E5s and those that had equivalent civilian/other branch experience. But these are exceptions to the rule (and those few E5s that become Warrants have to show a high level of ability/experience).
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Not voting. That's like asking, "Which parent should you respect more? Your father or your mother?"
I think MAJ (Join to see) nailed it. It's kind of hard to add to what she said.
You should treat all people with the same respect... regardless of the rank they are wearing. As to who you admire the most, that boils down to the individual and their professional performance, leadership, courage and integrity they demonstrate.
I think MAJ (Join to see) nailed it. It's kind of hard to add to what she said.
You should treat all people with the same respect... regardless of the rank they are wearing. As to who you admire the most, that boils down to the individual and their professional performance, leadership, courage and integrity they demonstrate.
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Senior NCOs...Other (Our Soldiers). Our NCOs are the "backbone" of our Army. They ensure everything gets done to standard, day in and day out. They execute the plan, and help us Officers ensure the mission is accomplished, and help achieve our vision for the organization. They also keep us Officers on track when we stray. But, that is an Officer's perspective. So, I suspect this also depends on (A) your vantage point, and (B) what you know or don't know about the military.
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SGT Chris Reese
@COL Charles Williams I believe you hit the nail on the head. With that being said I believe respect is earned at each level not given. Just because a SM respects the rank doesn't mean they respect the person.
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COL Charles Williams
SGT Chris Reese I believe you are correct. People respect the rank because they must, but respect for the leader (person) is earned by your actions, not your words.
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