Posted on Aug 22, 2015
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Just as I have aforementioned here on RP I don't confirm to many of the traditional beliefs that most Christians adhere too. Now I digress.

This follow was caught on the Ashley Madison hack. He was a Christian Vlogger so I would tend to think he should have a good understanding how his faith system works. He had an account with the intent of going out of his way to meet women to have an affair while his wife just gave birth. Now what I don't understand he proclaims it wasn't his fault. Some how his flesh acted on it's own and did it. It wasn't him. But now that he told on his flesh he is good now.

My issue with this is that we all make mistakes to varying degrees. Some of use don't put the toilet seat down and some like this go pay to have an account to have an affair. But he did it. How can you blame something else. You should be blaming yourself. It is your flesh. You can't somehow be taken over by some other sinful entity and act on it against your will. It sounds like some sort of possession. This is what I don't understand. To me it is like a criminal that murdered someone saying "It wasn't me it was the rage. Now that I said the rage did it I should be free to go!" I don't think that is how it is supposed to work. It seems like a flawed system to me. He is talking is admitting his fault but is talking no responsibility for it. I am all about forgiveness and marriages should be something that we should fight for but they just seem a bit delusional to me. To him now he is cleansed. Maybe he should figure out if he really wants to be married. Something made him want to step out on his marriage.
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Sadly, there are times that people want to blame their failing on something else. The double edged sword that I see from a lot of people that claim to be religious is that some try to lay responsibility for things at the feet of something spiritual. It is said that god gave us free will. Saying something went well because god willed it or failed because of failing of the flesh acting on its own is a cop out. He was weak. Both as a person and in his faith.he just refused to admit it.
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SFC Jason Porter
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You can claim any religion, but it does not mean you practice said religion.
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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Take responsibility for your actions.
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It is simple as that. To many want to claim to be all of that and then spin it when something goes wrong. I just hate the lack of accountability that one holds for themselves.
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SSG Warren Swan
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Please. YOU did it. The keyboard didn't "posses" you, Ashley Madison's site didn't badger you, and there was no one at your door telling you that you had to do this at gunpoint. YOU made a conscious decision, backed with your hands and credit card and made an account. Own up to it and move on. If need be, repent to your wife and God. But in the end, YOU did it. Be. A. Man.
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What kills me is if you were curious you would have just seen the website. Or googled it. I googled it a long time to find it what it was. My wife didn't know so I told her. I have never had an account nor would I have ever got one. What kills me is that he is just saying he was curious about it. Curious about the site would have ended at a Wikipedia search. If you were curious to have an affair then you would have paid the price to join. So he wasn't just curious about the site but he was curious about having an affair.
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SSG Warren Swan
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CPT (Join to see) - Sir, he was beyond curious. Dude had TWO different accounts. How is that "curiosity"? At that point with the first one, he knew what he was doing and what he was joining. It's a pay site, so again how was he "curious". He and his family placed themselves "above" the rest, and when things come to light, he's the "most hypocritical" person out there? Where's Huckabee now with his defending these "SuperChristians"? I know I'm ranting, but I hate when folks get a stage and tell others how they're living in sin or whatever and their life is better due to whatever religion is fashionable, just to find out they're just like the rest of us....they got to hide it better than the rest of us for longer.
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SSG Warren Swan - I agree. I see this as the greatest fault if their faith.
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He evidently doesn't get it. Neither does his wife or she would leave his sorry butt in the dust.
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It gets better. Today there was a story about him threatening others at a conference for questioning the way he came out. So he was not invited to come back to the conference. What a winner.
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The devil can give a person what he wants, then expose and humiliate him at the same time just to show Jesus we aren't worthy.
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Unfortunately this is someone using (or rather attempting to use) this religion as an excuse. If he were actually a good Christian he would be remorseful and perhaps ask forgiveness instead of blaming his actions on a convenient lie.
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SGT Forrest Stewart
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It is a sin. He's the one that committed that sin. He's the only one to possibility be blamed for that sin. He needs to take responsibility for his actions and stop trying to shift blame to anyone or anything else...
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Reminds me of "The Devil made me do it" t-shirts...
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The classic excuse
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I think it gets down between him and his wife. But nobody else typed his name and contact info in the block did they?
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What happened to personal accountability? Christians, like everyone else, are subject to temptation and just like everyone else, they fall victim to their own desires. If you can't own up to your mistake, how can you repent and turn away from it? Him blaming sin for what he did is like a fat person blaming spoons for making them fat.
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Indeed. I see this so much. It is like the logic of the trinity. One person is composed of this various aspects or personas. I think Jesus could pull this off but they are just weak to admit it they are ones at fault. It is their mind and then they have to battle the flesh with the spirit. How about you just be a good person. A lot of us aren't really get religious and we manage fine. Maybe this flesh is the real person and their good persona is really the front.
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