Posted on Apr 11, 2020
What is the policy on bringing "Assault Weapons" for active duty service members who are PCSing to California?
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Is it legal for Active Duty members with PCS orders to California to bring "Assault Weapons" to California? It seems that each source that I read gives conflicting information.
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Edit: I want to post an update on this. In order to bring an assault weapon, California requires that you must have a signature from the base commander that you need to possess the assault weapon for performance of military duties. Thus, it seems like this is a no go.
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Edit: I want to post an update on this. In order to bring an assault weapon, California requires that you must have a signature from the base commander that you need to possess the assault weapon for performance of military duties. Thus, it seems like this is a no go.
Firearms and Guns
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San Bernardino
Edited 4 y ago
Posted 4 y ago
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Imagine how I was feeling when I had orders to Japan and have 2 suppressors.... let alone trying to PCS to the "American" PRC.
That state needs to just fall off, couple charges in that fault line oughta do it. So sick of CA getting to dictate national crap because they're big and have a bunch of people. Thanks Pelosi, Feinstein, and CARB! As if my car will ever be registered in that hellhole.
That state needs to just fall off, couple charges in that fault line oughta do it. So sick of CA getting to dictate national crap because they're big and have a bunch of people. Thanks Pelosi, Feinstein, and CARB! As if my car will ever be registered in that hellhole.
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CW2 (Join to see)
PO1 Kenneth Cline - Lot of TNT or one CA Congressperson to speak the truth about "ghost guns"
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Then the Army said. Just kidding no Japan for you, you're a recruiter now! Firearm crisis averted, but way less desirable of a duty position.
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If you're going to live off post, forget it. On post it will be up to military regulations, but as soon as you head out the gate you will be in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia. By the way, I purchased my first Colt AR-15 in San Bernardino in 1972 or 73. I could, and did, actually walk down the sidewalk with it slung over my shoulder back then. Of course, Ronald Regan was Governor at the time. I would not advise trying it today.
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SFC William Farrell
SGT Robert Pryor - I'm a New Yorker but I live in Rhode Island now Robert. Not as restrictive as New Jersey where my brother used to live. I have my law enforcement credential and I'll qualify tomorrow, once a year for retired. New Jersey does it twice a year and they wont qualify you past 70! Commie state. I was stationed at Fort Hood after Vietnam. Loved Texas, didn't like being in the military in Texas. Didn't help that I was drinking like a fish after Nam!
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SGT Robert Pryor
SFC William Farrell - No qualifying past 70! I guess you know where that leaves nearly all Viet Nam veterans.
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Good evening Paul. You wouldn't be able to take any ammunition with you into California at all. The answer is YES to AR style weapons, but you have to first Call DOJ of California at [login to see] and request what is called a MILITARY PACKAGE before bringing the weapon into the State. NO CLASS 3 SHORT BARRELED WEAPONS are allowed unless they are registered. However, as it pertains to the firearms I would get in contact with the local authorities in California to ensure they would allow you to take your firearms. Here’s a website that may provide more info.
http://vafbgunclub.com/assault-weapons.html
Hope this helps. Stay safe.
http://vafbgunclub.com/assault-weapons.html
Hope this helps. Stay safe.
Application information for assault style weapons permit for military personnel.
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2LT (Join to see)
Good evening MSG Miller,
I saw that link earlier. Form 1314 seems to be an Air Force form.
I know that California law requires a base commanders signature stating that the assault weapon is required for military duties, but I am unsure whether practicing marksmanship would be a sufficient argument.
I saw that link earlier. Form 1314 seems to be an Air Force form.
I know that California law requires a base commanders signature stating that the assault weapon is required for military duties, but I am unsure whether practicing marksmanship would be a sufficient argument.
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MSG Glen Miller
2LT (Join to see) OK, looks like the best avenue would be to call CA DoJ. They should be able to answer all your questions. Sorry I couldn’t be of more help.
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Hey LT. I'd be happy to babysit y'alls ARs up here in free Montana while you are stationed in Kalifornia!
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SPC Kevin Ford
TSgt David L. Lol, very generous of you. I'm sure you will occasionally have to take them to the range to make sure they are in good working order.
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TSgt David L.
SPC Kevin Ford - Hahaha I have found that it is best to shoot the Hoppes (or your choice of oil) out of the barrel and then re-lube it. It opens up the pores and allows the oil to penetrate , thus last longer for storage!! LOL :-)
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Sgt Ed Allen
Those ugly stocks are part of what drove me away from Kalifornia. I just couldn't bring myself to deface my lovely SAINT, nor the ARs that I had lovingly built. The "grips" and stock below were examples of what I was going to have to replace my stocks with. I also could not tolerate the ammo background checks that they must now go through. I run through about 10,000 rounds a year. My stock would be seriously depleted if I had stayed. Add the increased cost of only being allowed to purchase locally. In Calif, it is illegal to have ammo drop shipped to your house. You have to go through an FFL for it. That meant that ammo you could get online for $160 per thousand rounds would end up costing you an additional $20 - $30 dollars, plus you would then also have to pay the sales tax, another $15. Or you could just pony up and pay for ammo locally at a cost of $250 per thousand rounds (I'm using 9mm as an example).
Add to that, you were required to register your horrible, scary "Assault Weapon" with the state. The registration had to include photos and, of course, a credit card. Once registered, you could not make any upgrades without notifying and registering those upgrades as well.
Add to that, you were required to register your horrible, scary "Assault Weapon" with the state. The registration had to include photos and, of course, a credit card. Once registered, you could not make any upgrades without notifying and registering those upgrades as well.
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California has magazine-capacity limits, so I don't know if being in the military exempts you from those limits. I only have two pistols that are "legal" in California, because the standard capacity of the rest of my pistols is over California limits.
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SPC Kevin Ford
SGT Steve McFarland - It did. Immediately went to a 1911 style for a compatible magazine capacity. The fact that they fit my hand real nice is a huge plus.
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SGT Steve McFarland
SPC Kevin Ford Glad you found something that works for you. I would hate to be stuck with only my Trooper and my M&P Shield.
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Sgt Ed Allen
If you want to know if it is California legal, here is the infamous roster
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search?make=All
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search?make=All
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I cant convince you enough to check out the laws for weapons. I have heard of people going to prisons for not being prudent or being ignorant.
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2LT (Join to see)
I couldn't agree more, sir. Unfortunately the laws surrounding Active Duty members moving to California are written in a convoluted way.
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Any weapon brought into California has to comply with that states dumbass restrictions. There is not an exception for service personnel.
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SP5 Peter Keane
Not True. Non-resident, active duty military members who bring their firearms into California when permanently assigned to a military installation within the state. Prior to arrival, the military member must submit an application for a Military Assault Weapon Permit and a copy of his or her assignment orders and an authorization letter from the installation commander to the DOJ, and the firearm(s) in question are legal to obtain and possess in his or her home state.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
SP5 Peter Keane - correct, but that authorization letter from his base commander has to state that a "bona fide necessity exists for use of personal assault weapons in military sanctioned activities."
What's the necessity, and what's the activity?
What's the necessity, and what's the activity?
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1LT James May
Capt Gregory Prickett - Personal training with a weapon similar to the military weapons should be good enough if the base commander will so state. The state really doesn't have the authority to override the military. So it just remains for you to convince the base commander to write it up properly.
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Gun owners entering and living in California are expected to have their firearms in compliance with State Law. You won’t get harassed in regards to AR or pistol high cap magazines because those could actually be for work but you won’t win that argument in regards to your personal rifle. That isn’t going on deployment with you. I recently left there after 9 years and it’s beautiful but the politics and taxes are too painful over time. Good luck
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SGT Robert Pryor
And that's what I'm talkin' about. TSgt David L.! Damn, I hate that place. I especially hate how folks there ruin it on a daily basis until they get fed up and move to other states, only to try and Kalifornicate the states to which they move. If their Socialist ideas were so good, why in the hell don't they just stay put.
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SGT Robert Pryor
TSgt David L. - So true. I loved growing up and even living there as a young adult.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
2LT (Join to see) - We need to push from using that terminology regardless what the reason. You want to take a rifle to Cali that can defend you and your family that you will not take heat for, buy an M1 Garand from CMP. $700 for a piece of history and eight rounds of 30-06 is pretty damn lethal. For a while, they were selling M1s with new stocks and new barrels and mine looks brand new. The receiver was a WWII build, so I have a rifle that is not banned in any form in Cali that is practically new, quite lethal, and a piece of history.
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