Posted on May 11, 2018
What is the worst part about being a service member or veteran?
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I know that we are (or should be) proud of our service. I, like many, believe that my experience in the military made me a better person and is definitely something that I am glad to say that I had the opportunity to be a part of. That being said, not everything is sunshine and rainbows. Although there are various positives that go along with having served, the world is not perfect and because of this, there are always negatives that come along with things. What is the worst part about having served or presently serving in the United States military?
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The worst part of retirement for me was moving from an organization (military) that demands accountability, responsibility, transparency and fosters pride into a civilian world that shares none of these values. City and county government is a prime example and seems to be full of people that focus on one thing and one thing only, a paycheck. In other words, I am blessed to have served in the military.
The worst part about having served was not being there for my family when they needed me.
The worst part about having served was not being there for my family when they needed me.
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SSG Jesse Denton
CPT, I think you will find the majority of city and county employees in smaller cities and more rural counties to be good civil servant and working for less that the norm in salaries, a tradeoff for job security. When you get to more densely populated cities and suburban areas the attitudes are frequently quite different. The more people in the area, the worse the attitude frequently.
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Sgt Joe Savino
sorry so off base I was one of those public servants you want to look down at also a vet. I didn't go into it for a paycheck and sure as hell didn't get one while working at it(FLA 1988-1998 started 8k ended 18k). But Y did receive a life saving award, saved well over 30 lives in my ten I did start a trend of law enforcement getting EMT certified because more times than no the patrol man is first on scene, when medical help in an hour away. All due respect sorry that's pure horse manure . If you cant walk a mile in my shoes then you have no right to judge. In my job i faced nepotism that promotion was only if you married into a family, faced daily corruption and abuse. In the locker room , Then went out to work a 8-19 hr day. My days off were not my own they were the days i sat in court. When i got out after ten i turned in 8 months of vacation time accrued. a month for each year. I never got to take a vacation because man power was always short. If you have zero concept of what your talking about its easy to throw doubt whole lot harder when you sit thru you hundredth holiday sitting in a cruiser patrolling knowing the best you'll see is leftovers or a compressed turkey roll when you get in. Both have the same morality we all try to save the world in our own ways , The lesson of it all is you cant save the world , you have to settle to fixing your own tiny sliver of it. We both wear boots for the same reason we walk thru piles of horse manure from people who just don't have one clue what the other does.
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The worst part of my military experience has been serving directly under senior leaders who believed that standardization of requirements and training schedules was more important than supporting the soldiers and their family members SGT Joseph Gunderson. I have fallen on my proverbial sword a few times for my soldiers.
Overall I am proud and grateful for serving in U.S. Army uniforms from November 1974 to May 2008. The soldiers I have led, served with and under by and large have been honorable and responsible.
Thank you for mentioning me LTC Tom Jones
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Overall I am proud and grateful for serving in U.S. Army uniforms from November 1974 to May 2008. The soldiers I have led, served with and under by and large have been honorable and responsible.
Thank you for mentioning me LTC Tom Jones
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. LTC Ivan Raiklin, Esq. Capt Seid Waddell Capt Tom Brown CW5 (Join to see) SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT MSG Andrew White SFC William Farrell SSgt Robert Marx SSgt (Join to see) TSgt Joe C. SGT John " Mac " McConnell SP5 Mark Kuzinski SPC (Join to see) SrA Christopher Wright Cpl Joshua Caldwell SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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SSG Scott Bregi
Although I agree with your statement, The Mission always comes first, no matter what.
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CPO Nate S.
SSG Scott Bregi - The mission is what is at hand!
It is the family as much as immediate access to "beans and bullets" on the battlefield that provides the Warrior Fighter the strength to support there "foxhole buddies/shipmates" (their immediate family of sorts) in the near term in the heat of the battle, and to know that what they are doing means something to them in relationship to their family back home. It is the family, a wife, children, parents, a grandmother along with your adopted family in the field that sustains you! So, family and mission are not separate, they are linked.
Therefore, senior leaders who dare to care yet demand individual accountability for preparedness to carry out the mission are those for whom I seek to serve! Always have!!!
It is the family as much as immediate access to "beans and bullets" on the battlefield that provides the Warrior Fighter the strength to support there "foxhole buddies/shipmates" (their immediate family of sorts) in the near term in the heat of the battle, and to know that what they are doing means something to them in relationship to their family back home. It is the family, a wife, children, parents, a grandmother along with your adopted family in the field that sustains you! So, family and mission are not separate, they are linked.
Therefore, senior leaders who dare to care yet demand individual accountability for preparedness to carry out the mission are those for whom I seek to serve! Always have!!!
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The worst part of being in the military for me has been being a part of an organization, the Army, that demands accountability, responsibility, transparency, fosters immense pride, and pushes immense stress while balancing a civilian world that, at large, shares none of these values in my eyes. Cynicial, maybe. I see it in my personal relationships, my career, friendships, professional interactions, and civilian life in general. It seems that people focus on one thing and one thing only in order to benefit themselves. These focuses can vary - education, a paycheck, increase in power and societal standing, wealth, and self serving needs. Its me, me, me, versus us, us, us, or you, you, you. Its self-serving over selflessness. In being part of something that is definitively selfless, I struggle with balancing this overwhelming difference. People are quick to blame something/someone else other than be held accountable. People are quick to hide the truth to make themselves look better in the eyes of others. People are first to self-serve themselves, before thinking of others. Yet, I find myself in the opposite camp. I take responsibility for my actions. I tell the truth even though I may lose standing in the eyes of others. I always put others first before myself. This opposite viewpoint does not seem to be the prevailing mindset of society today, and I feel like a minority for being this way.
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I know how stupid I'm going to sound here, but the hardest thing I had to do was retire somewhat young because of medical reasons.
I wasn't just military myself, it was the family business. I was born in an Army hospital and lived on Navy and Air Force bases and then one Coast Guard Air Station in Puerto Rico until I went active duty myself. My dad was in 30 years and my brother 15 and was also retired for medical reasons. Almost all males on my mom's side have served for around 200 years or so.
So for me, it was super hard to go from that to go away and forget everything you knew up until this point in your life and good luck finding something new.
I did it though because I have a very supportive family and friends.
I wasn't just military myself, it was the family business. I was born in an Army hospital and lived on Navy and Air Force bases and then one Coast Guard Air Station in Puerto Rico until I went active duty myself. My dad was in 30 years and my brother 15 and was also retired for medical reasons. Almost all males on my mom's side have served for around 200 years or so.
So for me, it was super hard to go from that to go away and forget everything you knew up until this point in your life and good luck finding something new.
I did it though because I have a very supportive family and friends.
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PO1 Sam Deel
What a Life growing up, Brother. Something that I always wished I had. My Dad and Uncle Served in World War Two and never talked about it. They did their stint and got out. My Dad almost became General Whitehead's Motor Pool Staff Sergeant when they were Stationed in Tokyo in the Occupational Forces. Being born in '68, I would have missed out on being an Air Force Brat, but I still dreamed of being a Military Brat. A big Salute to you and your entire Family!
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SSgt Scott Ezra
PO1 Sam Deel Thanks, Sam. Honestly, my parents deserve all the credit. It wasn't easy starting over every 3 years or so. My parents decided to make every aspect of living military positive. I saw plenty of others that made most everything negative and how that played into the family dynamics.
I would have loved to have had a family when I was active duty, but that didn't happen for me.
I would have loved to have had a family when I was active duty, but that didn't happen for me.
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Being away from family. Deployments, unaccompanied tours, training, etc. Being a veteran, you miss the brotherhood. Watching your brothers and sisters deploy without you. You feel lost at times. You served your time, as did I and many others. Take pride in knowing you did something that many don't or won't.
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Having seen the darker side of humanity and knowing the world isn't near as cut-and-dried as many people believe it to be.
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For me it was always separation from family and the lack of control over your daily life. You literally belonged to them 24/7. You really realize how little control you had once you have worked in civilian life for a few years. Don't feel like going to work? Take a day or 2 off. Don't like that job? Get another one. And on and on.
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PO1 Sam Deel
Try having a Civilian career, then dumping it to Enlist at 32. However, the culture shock was non-existent for me, having Dad, Uncle, close neighbors who all Served in World War Two. There was the Scout Leaders who had Served. I was an avid Military History buff from World War Two and up. I had a heck of a time not being caught smiling my way thru Boot, which for me, was only the 17 days Non-Prior Service Accession Course (NPSAC) Boot. My request for the full 11 week Active Boot was denied, as well as, A school, C school and Naval Aircrew Candidate School were all denied (no funding). I missed out on so much!
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I was in the Service a very short time, just one three year enlistment,so I can’t complain about the lousy pay,barracks life,multiple deployments or missing loved ones all those things happened so long ago or not at all in my case,what was the worst part for me is the loss I felt when I left the people who I served with,some good,some bad ,some just a pain in the ass,but all Brothers.
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SPC Mark Spivey
I couldn’t have said it any better. I did the “ETS” freedom bird countdown to get back to the “world” and couldn’t wait to get out, but once out all I could talk about was all the shit we all did in the Army. Years later I even looked in to joining the reserves or guard when we we in the gulf and the troops were not being allowed to separate, my kids were grown and I have a Medical MOS that I thought I would be in need, but they recruiters kind of laughed me off because of my age and the years I had been out. I think it was kind of funny now how time changes your perspective. I would have been a much better soldier with my attitude I posses today as a 60 year old man. Haha
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SFC Barbara Layman
It's interesting that recruiters were not taking you seriously when we got involved in the Gulf War.
I have a brother who was Army retired for 5+ years. He had been a the motor pool for most of his 20+ year career. He was re-called to AD and assigned to Ft Meade MD because of the number of casualties expected to be arriving at Dover. He said that on arrival at Meade there were a considerable number of retirees already assembled. They were training for and expected to be casualty escorts.
Needless to say, the casualty numbers were not what had been anticipated.
I have a brother who was Army retired for 5+ years. He had been a the motor pool for most of his 20+ year career. He was re-called to AD and assigned to Ft Meade MD because of the number of casualties expected to be arriving at Dover. He said that on arrival at Meade there were a considerable number of retirees already assembled. They were training for and expected to be casualty escorts.
Needless to say, the casualty numbers were not what had been anticipated.
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Being killed in an easily preventable training accident. Next: being killed in combat. Everything else is first world problems.
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