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I'm reading a number of books on leadership and trying to gain opportunities to lead and be a good leader in government service. I'm wondering what's the best advice you've received either in your military or civilian career on leadership and how to lead?
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Never ask your Soldiers to do anything you would not be willing to do. That doesn't necessarily mean that you are going to "shovel poop" with them every time, but you should participate in it at least once.
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SGT Tim Fridley
SGT Tim Fridley
10 y
That is the best advice I ever got as well and lead by example
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CSM Stephen Walls
CSM Stephen Walls
10 y
"Do what's right" ! even when it is hard !
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PO3 William Fusick
PO3 William Fusick
10 y
Being a good follower also helps in being a good leader
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Sir, so true. While in Iraq in '03, I was a platoon sergeant. One of the details that went around the company was burning the waste in the outhouses. I did it the first time, that way none of my soldiers could ever say, I never did it. It worked. No matter who got that duty, I never heard any complaining.
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Reward in public and criticize in private. Never lose your professionalism in front of your Soldiers and never ask them to do anything that you would not do.
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MSG Jan Glock
MSG Jan Glock
10 y
Well said CPT! Clear, concise and to the point!
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CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret)
CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret)
10 y
Excellent.
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COL Jon Thompson
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It did not come to me directly from a leader but in a book. Many years ago, I bought a book called, GENERAL PATTON'S PRINCIPLES FOR LIFE AND LEADERSHIP. It is a compilation of many of his saying as recorded by a young officer who served with him as we prepared for WWII. The first lesson in the book is one that always stuck with me. That lesson is, "we can always learn from each other." Throughout my military career and continuing civilian service, I have lived by this probably more than anything. My rank and experience did not give me all the answers and I always looked and listened to my subordinates for answers. I have found that people will surprise you if you listen to them.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
10 y
COL Jon Thompson Those 'young' Soldiers always amazed me!
Their adaptations, innovations, loyalties and misdeeds were a source of wonder!
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What's the best advice on leadership you ever received from a leader?
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The one advice that was given to me and I have used and it works for me....is take every leader you had/have. You take their good traits and bad traits, figure what can/will work for you and then mold it into your own style of leadership. The only drawback is that this is an investment in time type of advice......as you will always adapt your style as time goes on.
But, one solid piece of advice that does not require time.........Whatever leaders you have, whatever it is that you hate it when they do..........be sure not to do that.
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SSgt Carpenter
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What I was going to post is so similar, I'll comment it here; from my current 1SG, "Some you learn what to do, some you learn what not to do, but learn from everybody."
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CW3(P) Derrick Robinson
CW3(P) Derrick Robinson
10 y
SSG THOMAS LIVINGSTON i was given that same advice. It seems to work. So ill keep with it. Although sometimes it doesnt seem to work with some its still pretty effective.
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MSgt John McGowan
MSgt John McGowan
10 y
I recall some of my past leaders and tried never to make the mistakes they made. I learned a lot just by how the Airman in the shop were treated. Some of the things i saw I vowed never to do. I also learned some of the better traits and understanding the better leaders had.
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MSG(P) Rafael Aguilera
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Rule 1: No one cares how much you know, until they know how much you care - T. Roosevelt
A great book on leadership is: Above The Line by Urban Myer. I recommend this book to everyone!
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I was in 19 years (the first 10 on active duty) and on my first mob/dep. My BN CSM gave me the best advise that I've tried to uphold since. I wish I could've learned/applied it sooner. "Do the hard right, not the easy wrong" You'll be surprised how many situations/scenarios that it'll point you to success.
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Edited 10 y ago
I have been fortunate to be influenced by many good leaders from different areas and as a result I have many thoughts on this subject, however I will share a few very simple and basic ones that I teach to my students-

1) "There is a reason God gave you 2 eyes, 2 ears, and only 1 mouth.... Listen and Look TWICE as much as you talk!" (Some leaders do too much talking without actually listening to what their troops are trying to tell them!)

2) "Don't let the rank on your collar blind you from the reality in which you live and operate." (Yes, you got promoted. You are in charge. You don't have to remind everyone of it all the time! Also, just because you are higher rank doesn't necessarily mean you are right.)

2 of my favorite quotes from others on the subject:
1) "Outstanding leaders go out of their way to boost the self-esteem of their personnel. If people believe in themselves, it's amazing what they can accomplish. High expectations are the key to everything."
- Sam Walton

2) "People who are unable to motivate themselves (and others) must be content with mediocrity, no matter how impressive their other talents"
- Andrew Carnegie

and Finally.... Lead by EXAMPLE! Be the standard you expect from your soldiers and do not expect others to do things you are not willing to do yourself.

These are just a few that I've picked over the years. I hope they help.
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SSG Warren Swan
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This and the Creed. It really is amazing how many think they do one or the other, but don't. You'll never be perfect, but if you TRY and put forth an honest effort, no matter what is said, you gave it your all. Folks will see you trying and normally try to give you a hand.
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COL Dan Fuhr
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Reading the excellent responses I find only a couple of things to add:
- Soldiers rise (or fall) to the expectations you have of them.
- Don't counsel someone when you're angry
- Be the first one for the bad stuff and last for the good stuff as often as you can: stand in the door, break the ice when crossing the frozen creek, eat last etc...
- The old saying is "Deeds, not words, " but the truth is Deeds AND words.
- Don't talk bad about your boss even if your boss stinks, it just makes things worse.
- Soldiers take their cue from your attitude, so stay positive. That's why GOA Eisenhauer made a point of smiling in his pictures. If the boss looked worried, then there must be something to worry about.
- Good leaders underwrite the honest mistakes of their people. If the boss brings heat - stand up for your people, then you go and fix it.
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CWO3 Jeff Metcalf
CWO3 Jeff Metcalf
10 y
Good stuff Colonel...
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1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
10 y
Spoken like a true Infantry officer, COL Dan Fuhr!
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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Never ask your men to do anything you cannot, havenot, will not do yourself.
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1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
10 y
Be careful about using "never", SGM Mikel Dawson.

If for some reason I am unable to do something which is important to accomplishing the mission, I see no reason to not ask my troops to do it.

Conversely, I don't condemn them when they are not able to do something which I happen to excel at -- at least, not if they're willing to actually try. We each have our strengths and weaknesses, and good leadership makes the most of them.
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LTC George Morgan
LTC George Morgan
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1LT William Clardy - I truly respect this posting 1LT. In this I see your great future!
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