Posted on Apr 19, 2016
MAJ David Vermillion
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Would it be better to have all veterans choose their own provider?
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COL David McClean
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Privatization is best. Issue with the VA as with all governmental agencies- you cannot fire folks for not meeting the standards. Most government employees do the bare minimum to stay employed. That's bad news for health care
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PO2 Christina Hutson
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Very doubtful since Healthcare insurance is quite a bit higher for individuals who is on a fixed income. Who brought this ideal up in the first place. We some of the people were brave enough to join the service. Now your talking bout doing away with it when they said they would provide medical care to its veterans. What more is taking place that some individuals don't know about. Also there are some Veterans already doctoring with the civilian sector with some of the issues that they can't handle and paying out of there own pockets. I believe the VA HOSPITALS JUST NEED TO DO A BETTER ASSESSMENT OF PRIORITY SO IT DOESN'T COME DOWN TO THIS. SO HOW IS OTHER PEOPLE FEELINGS ON THIS ISSUE
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TSgt Eric Lewis
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Okay, before I answer. . . I don't use a VA hospital, but l am friends with some that do/have. My work insurance covers me very well. With that said...

I think that a vet should be able to choose their own physician. The vet will feel more comfortable seeing the same physician, or group of physicians, than not knowing who they will see when going to a VA facility. I know there is a VA clinic close, but the closest VA hospital is a hour and a half away. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a clinic within 30 minutes. To do this, l would think the VA would have to set themselves up like an insurance company to inform the vet what doctors are available in their area. Also, they would have to be more dependable than they are now with payments or it will end up like Tricare and not widely excepted.
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MAJ David Vermillion
MAJ David Vermillion
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I think if a veteran is not within a 30 minute drive to a VA medical facility, then choosing your provider for health care should be their choice.
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SSG Byron Hewett
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Bad idea that's what helps keep me healthy, alive, and out of the poor house and a cardboard box. and those medical professionals that work in the V.A. take a little bit more time to care and to make sure you get what need and don't just diagnose and run off to treat somebody else.
are there hang ups and screw ups and does the ball get dropped yup but for the most part they do get it done and do get it done right and they do care and yes there are those special select few that cause a lot of bad press and screw things up a lot.........
but I'll take the V.A. heath care system any day of the week verses going to a civilian facility where they over bill you when they are not supposed to bill you at all and then they treat you not so good for being a veteran.
I love the V.A. health care system because they really do care and take their to take care of the veterans. The V.A. has my Endorsement and vote ☺
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SrA Kristin Stewart
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Edited 9 y ago
i prefer using the va, i feel more comfortable there, i like that there are others like me all around, gives me a sense of still being in. besides i have absolutly no complaints about the care ive received in the 16 yrs ive been using them. i hear all the problems but honestly, i have never encountered any of them and ive used 4 different states in the last 16 yrs. granted the getting to know the new hospital is a tad frustrating but doesnt take long at all to get comfortable with them. the very few times ive been sent to civilian drs because the va couldnt do something, i hated it.
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SFC Thomas Howes
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I am with Capt Porter on this but if the democrats have anything to do with it we will get screwed
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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Before 9/11 the Republicans were the ones trying to gut the VA, the VA secretary even refused to meet with the Veterans groups when working up a budge tin early 2000. After all the VA is part of what the Republicans see as the enemy: Big Goverment
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1SG Mark Colomb
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I do not think that "Doing away with" the VA health system will appreciably change anything. The biggest problem with the VA is in the administrative side, scheduling appointments and determining benefits based on service connected disability. It has been my experience that the VA staff personnel who have day-to-day contact and interaction with the Veteran population truly care about the Veteran. Not so much with the administration staff. To outsource the healthcare role to local hospitals, in many areas, will create such a burden those hospitals will not have the resources to meet the needs, many of them specific to the military experience, of their new found customer. To accommodate this the medical staff previously employed by the VA system will be hired into the private sector. So the direct care provided will not change much, while the administrative processes will not change at all, and will probably worsen since there will be a corresponding decline in budget.
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SGT Eliyahu Rooff
SGT Eliyahu Rooff
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The only difference would be that the admin staff would be insurance companies who have a vested interest in reducing expenditures. Unless we had a single-payer system, I don't see any advantage to be gained from doing away with the VA and a lot that would be lost.
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Sgt John Greenaway
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The health system is needed by the veterans because where earned it. If veteran has health issue related to their time in service the government has responsibility to provide care. I can relate to this because I was exposed to chemical that shouldn't have been mixed with jet fuel that we used for training. Thus there are thousands of people were exposed to toxic chemical that shouldn't have been.
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SP5 Gene Nevill
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Doing away with VA health care sounds good, I fear that would end up being the first step in eliminated of covered health care for those vets in real need. I would hope I am wrong, but past history tends to move toward the get your own and it would be strictly a system controlled by the insurance industry.
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1SG Krista Ochs (formerly Munyon/Terry)
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For higher level care, I would agree...
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LTC Terrence Farrier, PhD
LTC Terrence Farrier, PhD
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This raises the bar on the original question a bit, but it is a necessary one to discuss. Because the VA is so critically short on funding, medical personnel who need a job are paid to keep a job at the lowest salaries. That means two things: (1) They don't have extensive specialty care in most cases, and (2) they will be looking for a higher paying job to pay their bills...don't we all? There may be, although I as a medical layman am not aware of, a system within the VA where adjudicated treatment that exceeds the VA's level of expertise can be forwarded as cases to civilian special treatment centers...for instance cancer centers, etc.
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CMDCM Rod Rosacker
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I currently use the VA for 100% of my medical needs although I have TRICARE insurance. I live in the San Diego area and am fortunate to have many locations to go. LA Jolla VA is one of the top hospitals in the nation in my opinion. They are very responsive and provide referrals to civilian locations if they cant see you quickly. As for not living close to a VA hospital or clinic. In the last year or so if you are in the VA system you should have received a card called "VA Choice" which allows you to go somewhere near your location, Away or home. Check it out at http://www.va.gov/opa/choiceact.
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LTC Terrence Farrier, PhD
LTC Terrence Farrier, PhD
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Good information, thanks!
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SFC Dr. Fred Lockard
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The problem with the VA, and the federal government in general, is the supervisors inability to discipline and get rid of under performing employees. I was a Team Leader at a Vet Center and I had 2 under performing employees I tried to get rid of to no avail. I was told the risk of a law suit was too great to risk firing the employees! So they were allowed to continue to work, get paid, receive benefits, despite bad ratings, counseling statements, etc. So you have these employees that really only care about their paycheck and making sure they leave right at the 40-hour mark each week. They are allowed to be rude to vets and no one says anything. As far as I know, even the Sec of the VA does not have the power to fire someone on the spot. This has to change. Set up a task force whose goal is to go out and find bad employees, write them up, and get them out.
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LTC Terrence Farrier, PhD
LTC Terrence Farrier, PhD
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SFC Lockard, change is needed no question. However, if the problem is the rifle you might not want to be too quick to fire the soldier. That doesn't mean I disagree that some need to move on down different career paths, but I do support a pragmatic solution that looks at the whole (in separate divisions first) and then make decisions so that future medical people who want to work with or for the VA do not shun them as the place to go to get fired...as their first reaction. It is important to realign both pragmatically and strategically as we make such choices.
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SFC Dr. Fred Lockard
SFC Dr. Fred Lockard
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LTC Farrier - Good points. I did not mean fire every employee that ever makes a mistake on the spot. The point I was trying to make is the VA is full of employees that are consistently rude, do not really care about vets, etc, but nothing is done about it. There is no real fear of disciplinary action being taken. Supervisors have to work through a cumbersome system to manage employee's poor behavior and it is time-consuming and often impossible to take decisive action that would change poor performance and behaviors. Supervisors often thus just give up. I had stacks of counseling statements, appraisals, etc but nothing was ever done to remove the employee for fear of them filing a lawsuit. If I ran a company and saw one of my employees being rude to our customers over and over they would be fired. Not so in the VA.
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SFC Keith Kingsley
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Yes. Why should our taxes pay for a corrupt health system?
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SGT Frederick Beckett
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A system that utilizes VA hospitals for those injuries and/or diseases peculiar to service related disease or injury and an open availability to other medical facilities might help the situation. With that type of help available to Vets there would be a case load distribution that could be better handled by the VA Hospitals and make ready care open to the VET.
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CPO Hospital Corpsman
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I hear the news of extended wait times at VA hospitals, but at least as a government funded operation, there are checks and balances. Yes the VA has issues, but watching the whole choice program roll out, and all the issues I see with it, I don't think privatizing the VA will accomplish what we as Vets need. There will be no accountability with outside providers. I would like to see more accountability at my VA and hopefully they are on the right track to fix that.
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SFC Keith Kingsley
SFC Keith Kingsley
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There is no accountability in the VA either.
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MSgt Darum Danford
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I'm 80% disabled and can receive care for a sniffle free of charge from the VA. I have used this benefit zero times. At some point veterans should be responsible for their own health. As the system is now some completely rely upon the VA for their health care , personal health be damned. While something may not be immediately life threatening, if you can't see a doctor for two or three months, it certainly could turn in a life threatening situation. The system for appointments and wait times is not going to get better and an alternative should be sought to reduce the wait times but a little personal responsibility for ones own health would go a long way. Enabling them to pick their own provider would certainly help them do that.
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SSgt Alan Cook
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but of course, the government breeds theft, and most care only about dollars, not about vet health care, if there politicians involved there are crooks , thieves,
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CPT Tom Monahan
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I am 40% service connected disabled and on permanent disability retirement. Later in life I became 100% disable due to no service connected reasons. I use the VA for primary care at an outpatient clinic, but use Medicare and Tricare for Life for all specialist, test, imagery, surgery, pharmacy, etc. this keeps the VA informed of my total health situation while I can select my providers of choice for everything else.
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MSgt Wayne Morris
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As far as I am concerned, the VA system (and not just the medical) is nothing but another bloated federal agency who seems to go out of their way to make life difficult for veterans and retirees but until the political double speak and posturing ends it will remain business as usual. As a retiree I have seen a continual loss of benefits ended in the name of saving dollars yet the DoD pushes forward with one obscenely priced program after another many which duplicate systems being developed by another branch of the service already yet those who served with honor and dignity previously are the ones that are paying with broken promises. Lack of COLA's for retirees under the false flag on zero inflation, limited access to local pharmacies utilized for years, commissary being tinkered with, a new retirement pay system, and now talk of cutting GI Bill benefits is just several in a long list of cuts to those served and we all know how bad the VA medical system can be. To those young people looking to serve their nation today and to those serving contemplating a career, I would exercise caution as you have become as disposable as the vending machine coffee cup.
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GySgt Carl Munford
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Why hasn't it been done already? I am, fortunately, able to use Civilian Health Care. In my opinion, comparing the V A Health Care System to Civilian Heath Care is not even close. I have been scrutinized, mistreated, had my Wife Verbally assaulted at V.A. Clinics and Hospitals in Nebraska. I could write a book however, I believe my point is made, Scrap the V.A. Health System Now!!
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