Posted on Mar 11, 2016
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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This question is for our Vietnam era Veterans here on RallyPoint. Share with us what your feelings were when you first received and opened your draft notice.

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What was your stance on the war? Explain your opinion

Did your parents put ideas into your head about the war that you didn't nessisarly believe in?
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SP5 Sam Hollis
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There were no feelings except that I had a two year requirement that I had to do.
I had not heard of Vietnam, did not know where it was or anything about it.
My parents had no idea of worldly events taking place in south easy Asia.
I really never had any ideas about the Viet cong or Vietnam untill I got to Fort Polk, La. BONG THE CONG was on the overhead banner entering the post
I learned fast when I got of the plane in Saigon. I was sent to tent city turned on my winter clothes and got my summer jungle attire.
Three days later I was in a rice patty with water up to my butt.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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SP5 Sam Hollis Thanks for sharing your experience and thanks for your service!
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
Sgt David G Duchesneau
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Sam, I know exactly what you mean. I did hear about Vietnam while I was in high school because I played Taps at so many of Military Funerals for those fallen soldiers who died there, but once I got to Nam in March of 69, I ended up at Firebase Stud, (Vandergrift) and was soon up to my ass in Elephant grass. The rest is history! lol The Marines humped my ass all around Northern I Corps from the DMZ to Laos and back so many times that most of the time I had no idea where the hell I was? All I know is that I humped my ass off for the next six months.
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SPC Edward Robinson
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I enlisted right out of High School never was drafted. I was number five of seven sons, our father had served 22 years in the Army. Was not against the Military as some were in that period of history. During my tour of duty in Germany we had a few who deserted and went to Sweden, then my roommate went back to the States on leave then booked to Canada he deserted. To them I have no respect what so ever. When I came back to the States from Germany I was spit on and called a baby killer even though I served in Germany. My brother James did three tours in Nam.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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SPC Edward Robinson Thanks for sharing your story and thanks for your service!
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Jenn Moynihan
Jenn Moynihan
7 y
SPC Edward Robinson - the Vietnam version of "The Fighting Sullivans" - thanks to you & the rest of the Robinsons.
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SPC Woody Bullard
SPC Woody Bullard
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SPC Robinson: Thank you for hanging in there and completing your service with honor.
I also was stationed in Germany and ran into that same problem at the airport when I rotated back to Fort Dix. A few civilian jerks did not like the U.S. Army uniform I was wearing and said some nasty things. I returned their words to them and they walked away like the cowards they were. I also have no respect for military deserters.
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MSG Barbara Lawson
MSG Barbara Lawson
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SFC Edward Robinson. I joined the Women's Army Corp (WAC). Of course women were not drafted back then and the Vietnam war was all but over.
I just want to take this opportunity to say that I am so sorry and embarrassed that you and all of the other heroes like you were treated like that. The people jeering and spitting and spewing their venom were cowards and cowards always try to beat down the heroes. I am a life-member at American Legion Post 572 in Parma, Ohio. We bend over backwards to ensure that the Vietnam Veterans know that they are welcome and our Legion does everything possible to make sure they have a safe and friendly environment environment and not be harassed. They also know that if they want to talk about their time over there, someone is always willing to listen.
Word has spread and we actually have a fair number of Vietnam Veterans as members. It's a shame it took this long but better late than never as my beloved grandfather always said. Thank you for your service. I salute you and all of the other Veterans that were treated that way.
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MAJ Jim Woods
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I was already on my first tour when it came in the mail..... LOL.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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MAJ Jim Woods Thanks for your service. It seems a lot of your RP counterparts were serving as well.
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Cpl Ryan Berry
Cpl Ryan Berry
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Welcome home sir! thank you for your service! Semper FI
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SP5 Lonnie K.
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Received my invitation April 69, showed it to my fiance she was not happy. Got married three days before induction. Levied for Vietnam April 70, wife seven months pregnant. Saw my son for the first time when he was eleven months old. Almost forty-eight years later we still together. No regrets!!!
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CSM Charles Hayden
CSM Charles Hayden
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Congratulations on your survival and marriage skills!
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CW4 Jim Webb
CW4 Jim Webb
6 y
My daughter was also eleven months old the first time I saw her. She cried, as I recall. Welcome home!
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PO1 Robert George
PO1 Robert George
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My 2nd daughter was almost born on the pier in San Diego as we were returning from my 2nd WesPac. We were still in Navy housing in Long Beach so took a few hours to get home. Along about 2100 that night she hollers at me, "Time to go." This pretty little thing popped out about 0400 next AM.
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CW2 Michael Mullikin
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A brief draftee versus enlistee story: after going through all the stations at the induction center they moved all the enlistees to a separate section, furnished with church pews, and told us to await further developments. People being who they are the draftees started coming around the place we were sitting, ragging on us for being stupid and enlisting. After about twenty minutes of this the army platoon sergeant returned and told everyone (except the enlistees) to line up against the wall and count-off by threes. He then told every third man to take two steps forward. He stood in front of all those who had stepped forward and congratulated them—they had just been inducted into the the United States Marine Corps (please follow the Gunnery Sergeant). Of course as they dejectedly trooped past us we recognized many of them who had been ragging on us earlier. I'd like to say that we enlistees were to empathic, caring and sensitive to say anything to these sad young men; fact is we were all laughing so hard we couldn't say anything.
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SFC Richard Bennett
SFC Richard Bennett
7 y
I have two friends that were drafted into the Marine Corps, They did well and have bragging rights! Mike I worked with in my Police department, Jersey City Police Department. Hank Lived next to me in Jersey City. Many good times. We would use his son's extra loud car sound system for Military music at times. My favorite was the 1812 overture. You may guess what his favorite was,
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CW4 Jim Webb
CW4 Jim Webb
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I saw the same thing happen when I enlisted. Every third man's knees buckled as the Gunnery Sgt pointed his finger at them!
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CW4 Jim Webb
CW4 Jim Webb
6 y
To my knowledge I have never met or talked to a drafted Marine, but I would have to imagine that he was one lonesome fellow for the next two years.
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CW2 Fred Baker
CW2 Fred Baker
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CW4 Jim Webb - I knew one, he passed away a couple of years ago. He was very proud of his Marine service, even though a judge put him there. He asked the judge if he could go in the Army instead and the judge said, "I'm a Marine! You got something against the Corps?"
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LTC Stephen C.
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Well, COL Mikel J. Burroughs, when the big draft lottery for 1970 was held on 1DEC69 (the first since 1942), I had been in basic training for about three weeks. I had enlisted on 9AUG69 and reported to the reception station at Fort Jackson on 28OCT69. Ironically, my number was 332 and had I not enlisted, I would have never even had to serve, as the highest number called that year was 195!
(Photo above: Rep. Alexander Pirnie, R-NY, draws the first capsule in the lottery drawing held on December 1, 1969. The capsule contained the date, September 14.)
Sgt David G Duchesneau LTC Ivan Raiklin, Esq. PO3 Phyllis Maynard SGT Mark Anderson
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LTC Stephen C.
LTC Stephen C.
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Check this out! I still have my original Selective Service registration certificate! Talk about a pack rat!
COL Mikel J. Burroughs Sgt David G Duchesneau SGT (Join to see) PO3 Phyllis Maynard
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SPC W. Neil Cantor
SPC W. Neil Cantor
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My number was 271! I enlisted May 5 1972, basic at Ft. Jackson June 1,1972. After BCT, went to 2 AIT schools then sent to CDEC. COMBAT DEVELOPMENT EXPERIMENTATION COMMAND, HUNTER LIGGETT MILITARY RESERVATION.
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SN Willaim Gale
SN Willaim Gale
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still have my draft card from the 50's
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SN Willaim Gale
SN Willaim Gale
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SN Willaim Gale - joined the Navy July 1958 but didn't go until Jan 19, 1959
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Capt Seid Waddell
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Glad I was already signed up for the AF!
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Capt Seid Waddell
Capt Seid Waddell
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs, it was my pleasure. Sorry I was not able to make it a career.
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Capt Seid Waddell
Capt Seid Waddell
7 y
SP5 Christine Conley, the draft lottery did not yet exist when I joined; the draft probability was 100% if you had gotten a 2-S deferment for school. Upon graduation the greetings from the government was in the same packet as your diploma.
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Capt Seid Waddell
Capt Seid Waddell
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SP5 Christine Conley, don't know, but I don't think that would help much; soldiers were much in demand in those days.
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SGT Damaso V Santana
SGT Damaso V Santana
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Capt Seid Waddell - Those were the days my friend...
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SSG Dr. John Bell, PhD.
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I was not drafted. I joined while a senior in High School. Delayed entry Marine Aviation Guarantee.
Never even registered for the draft. I had seen the recruiter and been to Testing center before parents found out. My father was Marine retired and had several retired officers that were family friends. I was pro military and spent 3 1/2 tours in Vietnam and Okinawa. ^6 mo in Japan. out of 8 1/2 years in Marine Corps. Marine Corps left me in 1974 and I joined Air Force as C141 Load Master.
Then joined Army and stayed to retire in 1988. Over 30 years Federal service as civilian and military.
Then went to college and Grad School.
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PO3 Michael James
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To Me-- With the "Draft notice" .. Vietnam ?? Felt Trust in our GOVERNMENT !! (at least at that time) I felt that it was our obligation; Draft or NOT !! .. Stance on the war.. Again, Trust.. I felt that there was Humanitarian Reasons for Vietnam.. At this time my hero, my dad had just died, killed at work.. I ran to look for a "father figure".. A position NEVER filled.. Now I am the dad.. at least half of one..
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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PO3 Michael James Thanks for sharing that!
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SGT Infantryman (Airborne)
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PO3 Michael Jamesl You're the man, believe me. You have all of my respect.
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
Sgt David G Duchesneau
8 y
Welcome home Brother!
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SSG Wayne Wood
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I burned my draft card.
My First Sergeant even thought it was funny. I was two weeks short on my first hitch in Germany.

My family has had its share of problems with draft boards though. My brother was with the 4th Infantry Division in Cambodia when he received his draft notice (he had enlisted on his 17th birthday). He sent a nice letter with a pic of himself in jungle fatigues standing beside a sign post for Phnom Penh stating he would be more than happy to return to the States and go through Basic again if only the Board would get a release from his CO. He received a letter of apology from the Board.

In World War 2 my uncle ran off twice and tried to enlist using his dead older brother's birth certificate before he got through. He was serving UDT in the Pacific when he got his notice. My grandparents had to travel all the way from St Louis to Kentucky to get my other Uncle's death certificate to prove which brother they had. The Navy was all ticked off and it's a wonder he didn't get in more trouble but I guess they had a lot of money invested in him and he was doing the job so... But it created a mess with his records I don't know we've straightened out to this day and he's been dead twelve years.

I always figured I'd end up in Nam, my dad, my brother both went. The Peace Treaty was signed my Junior Year. I didn't make any after high school plans because I figured I'd do at least three years and see what then. Just a family thing.
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SGT Randall Smith
SGT Randall Smith
6 y
I got a draft notice, that I was not expecting, in Feb. 1966 to report 18 March 1966. So on Mar 1st I got down to the recruitment office and said sign me up right now. I was sworn in in San Antonio Texas on 16 Mar 1966. I did not want to be a Marine and they were draf ting them.
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