Posted on Jul 20, 2015
Sgt Kelli Mays
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Sgt Kelli Mays I know I always had to sign in and I think I had to show ID or something. It was hard to get my absentee ballot last year, but once they knew I was who I said I was I was good. Not good to have "dead" people voting.
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
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Really Capt. My father-in-law collected names from the cemetery for LBJ. Are we progressing or regressing??
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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I think it boils down to the cost of the ID.
If it costs anything it is a poll-tax.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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PO2 Mark Saffell OK .. please tell us what you feel is a far amount to have to pay to be able to vote?
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PO2 Mark Saffell
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well seeing how they need them for other things i think $5.00 or $10.00 is fair. See my problem is I dont believe there are many people out there that would even vote that dont already have ID's. I think the people that are against it are just doing it to stir up trouble enough that if they dont have ID's they can continue to fruad the votes.
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ID's should be free in every state where the individual doesn't have a drivers license, also ID should be required to collect welfare and to vote.
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Sgt Carlos Barrera
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis - It promotes fraud
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"It’s been over seven years since the Supreme Court, in a 6–3 decision that was written by liberal favorite John Paul Stevens, declared that voter-ID laws don’t constitute an undue burden on people attempting to vote.

But that hasn’t stopped liberals from fighting in legislatures and courts against those laws and other efforts to promote voter integrity.

The lawsuits are often brought by Marc Elias, who doubles as the attorney for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. And their efforts have paid off: Only about 18 states currently require a photo ID to vote."

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421292/voter-id-other-countries-require
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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SPC Thomas Baldwin - That's not actually true. They require you to have one while driving, buying alcohol, etc, but no state legally requires you to have an ID simply for being in public. You ARE required to identify yourself to police upon request in many states, but that is verbal not via documents.
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The only thing you are required to purchase is life insurance. Everything else is quid pro quo.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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MAJ (Join to see), and health insurance.
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Oops yes health insurance no one is required to purchase life insurance!
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Who other than myself feels that a photo ID must be shown when voting?
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no, because if an American citizen doesn't have one, and they are turned away, than their constitutional rights are being infringed upon.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
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Sgt Kelli Mays - http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB [login to see] [login to see] [login to see] [login to see]
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SrA Edward Vong
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LCpl Mark Lefler


I do support free government IDs for all citizens.
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MSgt Ncoic
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How does one prove they are a citizen? Birth cert? SS card? all documents....no one complains when they are forced to show ID for anything else. If we are going to make a stand against ID's, I think voting for who runs our nation should be the last on the list. I am against many infringing things this country does, but I think, by not requiring an ID would be more of an infringement on our nation and people than not. Allowing outsiders that don't care about this nation to undermined the system by voting more "liberal" agenda, moving us further away from this countries founding principles. But hey, just my thought.
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LCpl Mark Lefler
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MSgt (Join to see) - they complain when they have to show ID to purchase a fire arm, oh wait, private sales don't need IDs. Your thought would be wrong, its the liberal "agenda" that is keeping this country from bottoming out into a country of wealthy 1% with a religious theocracy.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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I am of several thoughts on the Matter. If I was convinced that all US Citizens could get some form of ID that would be accepted and at no cost to themselves. I wouldn't see a problem with it but I seriously doubt that will ever be the case so I see it as Voter Disenfranchisement (Discourage Qualified Voters from Voting). Some people don't have Drivers Licenses (I didn't have one until I was 39). Some People have never flown on a Plane. Some people don't have time to go down to the License Bureau and get a Non-Drivers ID. Also having read all the statistics on "Voter Fraud" I see it as Virtually as a Non-Existent Problem. On a Political Level I see it as Republicans discouraging Poor Democrats from Voting and I can understand why they want to do it (Sickening as I find it).
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Sgt Ken Prescott
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"Also having read all the statistics on "Voter Fraud" I see it as Virtually as a Non-Existent Problem."

If you make it impossible to determine whether a given vote is fraudulent, then voter fraud will officially be a "non-existent problem." And that is exactly what we've done.

I've had several occasions where I've shown up to vote, and discovered that I've supposedly already voted.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
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How do you suppose these statistics of voter fraud are taken and analyzed and do you really think they would be true and correct??? cause how in the world would they know anyone was committing voter fraud? Seriously?!?!

There is voter fraud all of the time....but there is NO way of proving it...with having to show your ID as mandatory, then it would be easier to track voter fraud.

you have to show ID to purchase an airline ticket, to buy a house or get an apartment or purchase a vehicle...you should have to show your ID to vote to prove you are who you say you are and not some dead person or illegal alien.
To vote, you should, for the first time, take your birth certificate and get your voters registration card...then every time you vote you have to take your ID. Use to be in Texas you had to take both your registration card and ID, but now only your ID is required. They look you up on a print out and as long as your name is there and your ID matches all of the information, you are allowed to vote.

For the people stating that is infringing on your "rights" or "privacy" that's a bunch of bull. why wouldn't you want to make sure that all votes casted were legal and true and not frauds?
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1LT Aaron Barr
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Question; how is it that you came to the conclusion that voter fraud doesn't exist when our current system makes quantifying such fraud virtually impossible?
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LTC Kevin B.
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As long as IDs are provided free and easily/readily available to all eligible voters, then I don't have any problem with it. I don't understand why they aren't just made and handed out immediately upon registering.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
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the state should provide it as long as they require it to vote.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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Sgt Kelli Mays - There have been times in my life where if it had been $5 or not vote, I would have had to choose not to vote.
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Require an ID to collect welfare and the problem will be gone.
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LTC Kevin B.
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Is that a cynical attempt at humor, an assumption inappropriately stated as fact, or an unsupported opinion?
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Strongly agree!
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SSG Billy Crosby
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Absolutely
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MSgt James Mullis
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I'd love it. However, for this to work you need to have a proof of citizenship card to vote. The reason is that New Mexico and many other states give drivers Licenses (with photographs), state ID's (with photographs) for non drivers, and voter registration cards to anyone who can show proof of residency. Acceptable proof of residency includes such items as bills, bank statements, welfare cards, library cards, gym membership cards, and insurance cards; basically anything with your name on it.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
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makes sense...yes, providing a birth certificate to apply for voters registration for the first time should be required. Afterwards, a photo ID at the voting booth.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Honestly, I don't think I should have to have an ID at all in the US. I think it's a superfluous requirement. I know who I am. I have information who proves who I am.

However... There are certain things that "administrative necessitate" identification. A Driver's License is just one example. You are operating an industrial piece of machinery, and having proof that you are qualified with it is a reasonable requirement. Should it have your address, and date of birth on it? No. Not in the modern era, when police have the ability to cross reference it to a database to determine exactly who you are. Should it be used for anything else than it's stated purpose? Hell no. But somehow we let things slide out of control, and it has.

Now, administratively, we had to register to vote, because you are tied to a voting district. That is an "administrative necessity" and just like a Driver's License, it could be done without a Photo ID. We just happen to use that model. That doesn't make it the "best" model. I'm not saying it isn't a good model, because it does reduce the chances of fraudulent voting, however it also opens the door to debate regarding the Civil Right of Voting in general.

So while I do think we need to ensure the voting process & system itself must be protected, and registration & identification is currently a good model to do that, I have problems with ID's in general. Any time you make a requirement, you can make said requirement prohibitive either via cost, effort, or some other means.

Most states are pretty good about the cost, providing them at low or no cost. Effort is debatable. No one wants to go to the DMV/DPS/etc, because it's just a hassle, and giving up a few hours of a day, where you could be getting paid, or which is out of your way, or which has paperwork requirements which you cannot meet. These are all concerns which must be tempered.
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