Posted on Sep 16, 2014
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Can anyone explain why you must turn in obsolete or "end of life "items on your cif records such as a wool scarf the black fleece when it's time to pcs/ets? Why must I pay for them if they're considered obsolete and they're missing?
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SFC Mark Merino
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Can I have an OH-58D from the bone yard?
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SFC(P) Counterintelligence (CI) Agent
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Put me down for one myself. Does the designator "Found on Installation" work for one? :)
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1SG Company First Sergeant
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and I want an Anti Aircraft gun! ;)
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CW2 Paul Beiss
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Does it come with a free Rolls Royce service rep?
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In my opinion the Army shouldn't ask for any individual equipment back they are not going to reissue. Think of all the costs to inventory sort and ship that stuff just to get rid of it.
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1SG Company First Sergeant
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As I stated in my answer Sir, a lot of it is sold to our allies, thus making it profitable for the Army, for Soldiers to turn it back in.
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I hear you. I'm less concerned about potentially missing items than I am about having so much to have to keep accounting for. I've tried to go in and turn in and have removed from my records several choice items that i haven't used in years and has been replaced by other gear. I've been through RFI 3 too many times. Quite literally i have 3 tan t-shirts and 3 pairs of green socks. I know exactly when they showed up. The question is, why do i still need them on my 5 page clothing record? I've got roughtly 12 pairs of boots on there of 4 different styles, 5 sets of black silkweight underwear, and 4 sets of tan. Luckily my BDU's were never on there. My DCU's keep switching from ETS transfer y and n.
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Why do you turn in obsolete items on your CIF records when it's time to PCS/ETS? Why must I pay for them if they're missing?
SSG Laureano Pabon
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One of the things I did when I first signed for the issued equipment was "Not inspect it", before walking away. While CIF would like to rush you out the door, the second time "I inspected every piece of equipment in the list by detail and made them change what was worn out on the spot". If I lose it its on me, but I took well care of the equipment. If the equipment is obsolete and I signed for it, it goes back. Lets just say if its not in my CIF records with my signature I'm not paying it for it. Same was with my TK 101 tool kit. If I had a screw driver missing and I never signed for it, I'm not paying for it.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
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Edited 11 y ago
After 27 years and 21 flying ones, they will want my plastic kneeboard and aviator glasses back! I think i lost the sunglasses (TOP GUN style) in the Gulf of Mexico, but oh well, I will buy some at the local store and turn in I guess, cause the depreciation after 20 plus years still doesn't allow for me to keep them!
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SGT Richard H.
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Simply put, your signature was an agreement to return it.
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SFC Mark Merino
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1SG(P) (Join to see) That does seem ridiculous. Maybe the government is selling all of them to friendly nations?
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Actually they give a lot of that stuff away as surplus. Organizations like BSA can get an account number and access to items like tents, sleeping bags etc.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Steel mess kits, Mickey Mouse boots, wool blankets, shelter halves... And the Army keeps rolling along...

Because it is the government. No further justification is need according to them :-)
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CSM Thomas McGarry
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Probably because you signed for them originally and it was you responsibility to protect them and make sure they are serviceable-That being said it's often much easier to purchase the item at Army/Navy Store or other source for turn in-Hope it was not a "sensitive item"!!
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anyone on Fort Hood knowing the going rate of the black fleece. I have 2 on my hand clothing record but only have possession of 1.
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