Posted on Mar 3, 2016
PFC Alexander Oliveira
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Can anybody tell me why marijuana is looked down upon so heavily while, alcohol, caffeine, Xanax, Vicodin, Percocet, along with other prescription drugs are so openly welcome? What about federal recognition, legalization and taxation? We can look at the profit from taxes made in states like Colorado and see the positivity made from legalization, lower crime rates and such.
What are your thought?
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CW4 Unmanned Aircraft Systems Operations Technician
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Drugs are bad, mmkay. It leads to other drugs and sex with men in rest stop bathrooms, mmkay.
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PFC Alexander Oliveira
PFC Alexander Oliveira
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*kids in unison*

"YES MR MACKEY"
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SSG Warren Swan
SSG Warren Swan
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Should I ask how you know that Chief? lol
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PFC Alexander Oliveira
PFC Alexander Oliveira
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I heard someone talking about that random UA coming up soon.
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SSG Warren Swan
SSG Warren Swan
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CPT T F - Sir I remember it from the early days in the mid 90's, stopped watching it not long afterwards. I thought Beavis and Butthead were funnier.
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CPT Jack Durish
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I am opposed to prohibition, but not because I think drugs are good. Personally, I have no desire to use them. I was given an opioid for the pain of sciatica and all it did was make me constipated (Sorry, I know WTMI) My opposition to prohibition is that the unintended consequences of it far outweigh the consequences of drug use.

That being said, please don't smoke your marijuana around me. It smells really foul. No other drug comes close. Coffee (caffeine) is quite pleasant smelling. But burning marijuana smells like a rotting cadaver.
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SGT Kristin Wiley
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I'm concerned more about how smoking (marijuana, cigarettes, cigars) affects the environment. Pills, caffeine, and alcohol only effect your body, excluding actions done while under the influence. There have been studies that show second and third-hand smoke can cause respiratory dysfunction to include lung cancer. As someone who suffers from asthma, I find it extremely rude that I'm forced to use my inhaler when walking in a public area because someone was too inconsiderate to smoke in a designated smoking area.

I'm all for if you want to do it in the privacy of your own home, but that doesn't mean others should be subjected to your actions and the negative health effects they cause. I grew up in Oregon, where recreational marijuana is huge (illegal or not), and marijuana in particular leaves a disgusting stench on the user. So marijuana users such as these, are not people I would enjoy working with in a professional environment.
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I honestly doubt that the environmental effects of marijuana legalization can be compared to cigarettes or any other form of tobacco smoking, let alone alcohol (cans/bottles/red solo cups), pill bottles, soda cans, coffee cups (let alone the deforestation to make that coffee) and the waste that is caused by those products. If you are more concerned with the tobacco smoking portion, consider the buyouts states receive from Big Tobacco and the states adamant stand against tobacco alternative products, i.e. E-cigs, vapes, etc... due to loss of their previously guaranteed check. The government doesn't want to ban smoking because it's not profitable.
Marijuana legalization would be not only profitable, but would directly affect the drug wars ravaging Mexico. Sure, there will always be a black market for drugs, but if we could eliminate a sizable amount of money going towards our "War on Drugs" from yesteryear, who cares?
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SGT Kristin Wiley
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PO3 (Join to see) You are referring to ecological environment, I was referring to the impact of health environment of non-smokers from smokers. So I'm not sure you comment is totally appropriate to my post. I also never said we shouldn't legalize marijuana, just to do it in the privacy of your own home.
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SGT Kristin Wiley - My apologies. I do believe the Big Tobacco vs. alternative smoking/quitting resources such as E-cigs does have some bearing here though (though it was only a small portion of my comment I concede). I believe the financial costs such as setting up/maintaining smoking areas and policing these areas would be much less than the costs already accrued due to health issues, absolutely.
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SGT Kristin Wiley
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PO3 (Join to see) I just wish we could be health as the forefront concern, not money, but it is what it is. Personally, I don't like have laws and regulations to control actions, I simply wish we could all be respectful and responsible enough to ensure our choices don't hurt those around us. If we could empower knowledge to those around us so they could make better choices, but alas the world is not perfect.
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Why is marijuana seen as a bad drug?
SGT Edward Wilcox
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Marijuana is looked down on because of over 60 years of propaganda. You should do some research into the history of marijuana. The cannabis plant was grown legally all over the country for the fibers, up until shortly after WWII. The fibers were used to make hemp rope. After the war, many suggested using the plant for paper production and clothing fibers. This would have decimated the lumber and cotton industries. Many credit Randolph Hurst, a lumber and paper tycoon, with getting the hemp plant falsely equated with plants grown for recreational use, and getting them all outlawed.

Legalization carries some definite problems with it. Just like alcohol. Colorado is enjoying a windfall in new revenue, but it is also seeing new costs associated with legalization. The black market for marijuana has simply shifted it's focus to those who can't legally buy it, such as minors. It has not gone away. While I support legalization, it is not the magic cure all some think it is.

Alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine are all far worse on the body than THC, especially when combined with the other chemicals found in the most common delivery methods. Which is not to say that marijuana is 100% safe, it isn't.
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PFC Alexander Oliveira
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I agree with you almost 100% only that I have done research here and there and was aware of it being grown in early early America as hemp, making fabrics, that sort of thing. and I do agree with you for the most part. nothing will ever be completely safe and there will always be a black market of sorts for things like weed
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SGT Edward Wilcox
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Sgt Richard Buckner - The difference being I bring informed discourse to the conversation, and not judgmental arrogance.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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Ancient History, Propaganda, Movies like Reefer Madness. "Marijuana will make those Black Men Crazy and Rape White Women". Just pure unadulterated ignorance.
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The main reason why it's viewed as a non-acceptable drug is that it stays in your system for a relatively long time. And you believe that Percocet and Vicodin is welcome? They aren't, not in any jobs where you need some kind of direct responsibility.

To compare with caffeine... is a bit bizarre.
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PFC Alexander Oliveira
PFC Alexander Oliveira
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http://www.livescience.com/52383-interesting-facts-about-caffeine.html

its much milder drug, I guess you could say, its not a mind altering narcotic, but its considered a drug. personally I don't care about it as a drug, I drink soda, coffee, energy drinks whatever. I think its dumb to call it a drug but it is what it is I guess.
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This might be true, in regards to lethality and in a sense addiction, but there is a reason that we are still allowed to operate both vehicles (even commercial) and heavy machinery while under the influence of caffeine. We are not impaired by it.
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Cpl James Waycasie
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I am no expert but I did try it when I was younger. I smoked cigarettes for years. I personally found that smoking Marijuana affected my breathing more so than the cigs did. It also made me feel disorientated and paranoid. I didn't do it because I didn't like it. I m now 55 yrs old and I have friends from my teen days who did and still do smoke it. I have to admit that some of them were very intelligent 35 to 40 years ago. Most of them now seem like dimwits who can't remember anything, can't carry on an audible conversation and can do only simple jobs. I figure God has a purpose for it. I have heard it can relieve and cure many diseases but like any drug, it can have bad side effects. I don't reckon God planned on beer, wine, whiskey, Vicodin, valium, pot or anything to be used in a recreational lets get stoned category, lol.
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Sgt Bob Leonard
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If you're Jewish or Christian, and believe the Bible is His revealed Will, consider this...
Ps 104
1 Praise the Lord, my soul.
Lord my God, you are very great;
you are clothed with splendor and majesty.
2 The Lord wraps himself in light as with a garment;
he stretches out the heavens like a tent
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14 He makes grass grow for the cattle,
and plants for people to cultivate—
bringing forth food from the earth:
15 wine that gladdens human hearts,
oil to make their faces shine,
and bread that sustains their hearts.

You said, "I don't reckon God planned on beer, wine, whiskey, Vicodin, valium, pot or anything to be used in a recreational lets get stoned category, lol."
I'd say God 'planned for' beer and wine (His Word says as much).
Whiskey (or any other distilled spirits) I don't find in Scripture. Same for vicodin and valium. They are all produced by methods developed by man, not God.
On the grand scale of things, I'd say mj goes on the same side as beer and wine; naturally occuring, not produced by human methods.

Now if you'll all turn in your hymnals to page ...
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I have seen marijuana users in Vietnam where they have highs and lows, paranoia, slowed reflexes. etc. I do not want to trust my life to someone that is high.
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Cpl James Waycasie
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Amen Brother.
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SSgt Robert Marx
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Marijuana, when inhaled, does extensive damage to the cardiovascular system & the endocrine glandular system. When ingested through food, marijuana damages the endocrine glandular system; however, perhaps further testing is warranted to see if there are benefits for use of marijuana that outweigh the consequences. I do not think that any scientist can definitely state that marijuana has been tested enough for its strengths to be known. Alcohol & opioid drugs are terrible for the system. They both destroy the body's main systems while causing a depressing of the overall system. Caffeine, while technically a drug, has temporary effects that are hardly worth mentioning except for when massive amounts are taken and cause heart issues. People have died from taking too much caffeine; however, when taken moderately, daily or occasional use is not harmful.
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SPC Chelsea Fernandez
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It only becomes bad when it is sold on the streets
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