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Beretta reveals its new striker-fired pistol. Will it be the Army's new pistol?
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/03/04/beretta-reveals-new-striker-fired-pistol/
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http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/03/04/beretta-reveals-new-striker-fired-pistol/
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Posted 9 y ago
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The weapon itself looks nice and it is the right caliber for stopping power i.e. better then the 9mm. I still prefer a .45 but like I said who knows what will be the next side arm for the US Military.
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Cpl James Waycasie
I love the .45 especially my Colt Combat Commander 1911 A1 Series 80. I have the same pistol in a 9mm on the 45 frame. It is rare due to the fact Colt only made it a few years. For ranges up to 30 yards, I love the .45 but for carry, I prefer and use the Taurus Millienium 40 cal. I also like the Glocks and M&P in both 9 mm and .40 caliber. I have shot them at paper plates with good groupings up to 75 yards. I always try to own weapons that is standard Nato issue, hence I own a 9mm and a Rutger .223 Rancher which the manual states will also shoot the 5.56. As far as what the Military will use, I suggest no lower caliber than the .40 caliber. Let's face it, most pistols used in combat will be used at very close ranges so a .45 still would be perfect for the job. The berretta looks like a fine weapon and in .40 caliber I am sure it would perform well. But like SGT Jim Zajc says who knows? With this PC government they may want to issue .22 long rifle autos so the bullet won't do as much damage, lol
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
PO2 Robert Cuminale For those who use and train with guns on a regular basis, there is no "need" for an external safety. For those who don't use them regularly, an external safety, is a precaution "worth the extra step."
Keep in mind that Pistols, as a class are treated as Defensive weapons (Secondary) in the US military. They are NOT primary nor Offensive weapons for most specialties beyond LEO types. Those who end up using them, in general, receive far too little training, in comparison to rifle users.
It's not that we couldn't field weapons without external safeties. It's that weapons without external safeties would be a liability for the "majority of the force."
Keep in mind that Pistols, as a class are treated as Defensive weapons (Secondary) in the US military. They are NOT primary nor Offensive weapons for most specialties beyond LEO types. Those who end up using them, in general, receive far too little training, in comparison to rifle users.
It's not that we couldn't field weapons without external safeties. It's that weapons without external safeties would be a liability for the "majority of the force."
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - You may remember a discussion a while back on allowing recruiting personnel to carry a sidearm? Do you remember at least one Commissioned Officer said that he wouldn't issue a sidearm to any of his people because too many of them were on Paxil. I'm not sure a safety would do them any good.
I take training and safety seriously. The wife and I go to the range at least every two months whether we're here or in Emerald Isle. Flatwood outfitters is a good range the next time you're near Jacksonville.
I take training and safety seriously. The wife and I go to the range at least every two months whether we're here or in Emerald Isle. Flatwood outfitters is a good range the next time you're near Jacksonville.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
PO2 Robert Cuminale I know. I'm speaking of the "force en masse" though, specifically in regards to this, not my personal opinion regarding the issue. What's good for the "micro" doesn't make sense for the "macro."
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Hell no it won't be the new pistol. If we get new pistols how will we still be able to carry that rattling piece of shit around still we currently have.
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Personally, I would prefer the S&W M&P, but who knows at this point. It all depends on who thinks they can get a feather in their cap...
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
Great choice. I have all the M&P's in 40 cal. The wife likes her M&P Shield in 9mm. I was looking at the new M&P with the ports and other special designs the other day. At $900 it will be a while before I can buy one of those. I don't know anyone who has one yet so I can't borrow it and try it.
The shield is OK in Summer clothes but a light weight. Better than nothing though.
I tried a Beretta but I am unimpressed. I think I'll stick with my M&P's.
The 40 Cal. is a good weight round. Lighter and cheaper than a 45 Cal. and seems to be very effective. I've never gotten romantic about the 1911 probably because I remember it as being as heavy as a boat anchor and many of the service 1911's were worn out and needed to be replaced.
The shield is OK in Summer clothes but a light weight. Better than nothing though.
I tried a Beretta but I am unimpressed. I think I'll stick with my M&P's.
The 40 Cal. is a good weight round. Lighter and cheaper than a 45 Cal. and seems to be very effective. I've never gotten romantic about the 1911 probably because I remember it as being as heavy as a boat anchor and many of the service 1911's were worn out and needed to be replaced.
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I think Beretta has to overcome the bad taste some of us have over the M9. As an old 1911 man back in the 70's, I got to the point I could keep my hits within a 1 inch circle at 25 yards and 2 inches at 50 yards. Something about the M9 just threw me off to the point as a Major I could just barely qualify. Now in full disclosure, I have and love my Beretta PX4 Storm 9mm as a sometimes conceal carry weapon but mostly use my Glock G19 Gen 4....so the caliber is not the issue.
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The army just rejected Beretta's attempt at modernizing the M9.
I seriously doubt they told Beretta to pack sand just so they could get a new gun from Beretta.
http://m.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/09/army-rejects-m9a3-proposal-opts-for-new-pistol.html?comp= [login to see] 70&rank=1
The army just rejected Beretta's attempt at modernizing the M9.
I seriously doubt they told Beretta to pack sand just so they could get a new gun from Beretta.
http://m.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/09/army-rejects-m9a3-proposal-opts-for-new-pistol.html?comp= [login to see] 70&rank=1
Army Rejects M9A3 Proposal, Opts for New Pistol
Army officials will not evaluate an improved version of the 9mm pistol, instead searching for a more modern soldier sidearm.
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PO2 Steven Erickson
Now, now, SGT Bryon Sergent! New minds... fresh ideas!
I LOVE my striker-fire M&P .45 ACP. With a 6lb trigger pull, "ya gotta wanna" in order to put a round downrange. Rides cocked and locked and real safe!
I LOVE my striker-fire M&P .45 ACP. With a 6lb trigger pull, "ya gotta wanna" in order to put a round downrange. Rides cocked and locked and real safe!
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SGT Bryon Sergent
my 1911 rides locked and cocked and has a safe and rides safe also. Keeps the Cherry(dumb) privates and officers(sorry) from the negligent discharges!!
To point, there was an officer that went to a clearing barrel I was around. He cleared leather, went to the barrel, pulled the slide back, looked in the chamber, dropped the slide, pulled the trigger, BLAM! in the barrel. well scarred the S$&t out of all of us. He then freaked out, pulled the slide to the rear, seen the round come out, dropped the slide, pulled the trigger, BLAM! well several of us at the same time DROP THE MAG OUT SIR! Really don't need a scared lower enlisted clearing leather and popping one off also!
NO DISRESPECT MEANT. That actually happened, I wasn't and NCO then.
To point, there was an officer that went to a clearing barrel I was around. He cleared leather, went to the barrel, pulled the slide back, looked in the chamber, dropped the slide, pulled the trigger, BLAM! in the barrel. well scarred the S$&t out of all of us. He then freaked out, pulled the slide to the rear, seen the round come out, dropped the slide, pulled the trigger, BLAM! well several of us at the same time DROP THE MAG OUT SIR! Really don't need a scared lower enlisted clearing leather and popping one off also!
NO DISRESPECT MEANT. That actually happened, I wasn't and NCO then.
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