Posted on Dec 30, 2013
Capt Current Operations Officer (S 3)
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I just came across this article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/08/wounded-warriors-project-a-legal-scam/

It talks about how everything they do is contracted out and the officers each have a salary of 100k - 300k. It also talks about how out of all the funds that are donated only ~10% reach the wounded warriors.

This really bothers me because I know my wife and I have done fundraisers and donated to the WWP. Does this affect how you will donate? or where you will donate? Do you actually research the non-profits that you donate to?

I know I dont, but this will definitely make me start.
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Capt Current Operations Officer (S 3)
I just came across this article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/08/wounded-warriors-project-a-legal-scam/

It talks about how everything they do is contracted out and the officers each have a salary of 100k - 300k. It also talks about how out of all the funds that are donated only ~10% reach the wounded warriors.

This really bothers me because I know my wife and I have done fundraisers and donated to the WWP. Does this affect how you will donate? or where you will donate? Do you actually research the non-profits that you donate to?

I know I dont, but this will definitely make me start.
Responses: 110
CPT Bob Moore
Edited 9 y ago
I haven't been a fan of the Wounded Warrior Project since I looked at how little they spend out of their budget actually helping veterans. They spend about 57% helping veterans and over 30% on advertising. While their actual operating expenses are a small percentage (somewhere around 5%), they still don't do a very good job in getting money where it needs to be, in my opinion.
CPT Bob Moore
CPT Bob Moore
9 y
I don't mind advertising, I Just don't like the percentage that they spend on things other than service members. 57% on actual charity work is too low for me. Advertising at over 30% is too high of a percentage.
SSG Steven Gross
SSG Steven Gross
9 y
Do your homework.. Sgt Butler drives home the very fact of MOST charities, to include Red Cross. Before you donate, look it up on the internet. Don't listen to others...
SSG Steven Gross
SSG Steven Gross
9 y
Sgt. Buckner, I stand corrected... Screw spell-check....Auto Correct, ....
SPC Interpreter/Translator
SPC (Join to see)
9 y
Spending 30% on advertising drives more revenue streams into WW. I would rather get 57% of 10,000,000 than 95% of 100,000...
MAJ Dallas D.
I think all anyone needs to know are these 2 things:

1) "Wounded Warriors Project head Steve Nardizzi, has never served,"
2) "$375,000 that Wounded Warrior Project executive director Steven Nardizzi was personally paid in 2013"
MAJ Dallas D.
MAJ Dallas D.
9 y
I retract all such statements about Wounded Warrior Project, including the salary of its CEO.
SGT Richard H.
SGT Richard H.
9 y
It's pretty obvious that retraction was written by an attorney. Kind of reeks of yet another lawsuit. Just saying.
MAJ Dallas D.
MAJ Dallas D.
9 y
Just to elaborate on WWP - I am an alumni and yes they have called me just to see how I am doing, yes I have been very lucky to go on a Soldier Ride and it was an amazing experience.

I think they are like any big organization that has good and bad sides. I think their hiring practices are where I have the biggest gripe.

I went through an over 12 month process to try and get a position with them and in the end it went to someone who was not a veteran and had much less experience. This was for a position that in the Jacksonville area pays in the $60-$70K a year range and they were only offering $35K but I was willing to work for less to help my fellow veterans. 

I am not bitter about not getting the position, I believe everything happens for a reason and I am happy where I am. 

I just think they have went from helping veterans as a main objective to where awareness is their main objective. 
SFC Douglas Duckett
SFC Douglas Duckett
9 y
MAJ Dallas Dunn - No need to retract. The author of the article on this debate (Tim Mak) is not the same that retracted any statements (Gordon Alex Graham).
LTC Jason Strickland
SGT Robert R., there is no doubt that this organization has been subject to a lot of scrutiny. My impact organization, Project Sanctuary, serves military and veteran families and continually spends over 84% of all donations directly on the service we provide to families. We are a Gold Member of GuideStar Exchange, a Better Business Bureau accredited charity, and demonstrating our commitment to fiscal responsibility, accountability and transparency. I invite you, and the others on this thread: MSG Wade Huffman, CMSgt Robert Gates, SCPO Larry Knight Sr., PO1 (Join to see), LTJG Robert M., CW5 (Join to see), MSG Bill Geiger, and SPC David S. to check us out and see for yourself.
All nonprofits must raise money to provide the services, it's our fiduciary responsibility to be excellent stewards of those contributions - and I'm charged with doing that for our nonprofit.

http://www.projectsanctuary.us
LTC Jason Strickland
LTC Jason Strickland
>1 y
SCPO Larry Knight Sr., thanks for your comment. My simple answer is the old adage: it costs money to make money. The paper that we use to print our materials to tell others about our organization costs money. The dental insurance plan covered by my organization costs money. The money dedicated for payroll outside our programming costs money. It even costs money to spend the time and resources to tell our donors that we spend their contributions properly. Any organization that claims 100% goes directly to their constituents either has all-volunteer "employees" or has an extremely generous wealthy donor that offsets those expenses or has set their financial structure to direct funding through an endowment or other holding entity to ensure their financials are not affected.
This is not to say there aren't some tremendous organizations that ensure nearly 100% of donations go directly to services. Fisher House is a tremendous example of this.
SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
>1 y
Thanks for your response, I talk with Business exec's daily who offer their support with this program. I question their allegiance and loyalty in the handling of proceeds from all sectors ? When many of the returning wounded here in our area complain that, none of this (moneys' ) seems to be filtering into the program as stated by so many.
It seems' in some respects like the Medicare system, which has been defunct by the medical professionals to the point of plain outright fraud ! Just hoping this doesn't become an issue with WWP, and you'd think with all the billionaires out there funding would be of no issue so that 100 % would be viable ? Bravo Zulu to you for your service and your part in the program.
CPT Richard Riley
CPT Richard Riley
>1 y
LTC Jason Strickland You are correct, ANY organization that purports to directly use 100% of donations for the mission is misleading at a minimum. The few out there that have substantial endowments and are capable of 100% direct support are not foolish enough to deplete their entire endowment for the sake of that 100%.
I work alongside a few in my area who strive to come close to the 100%, but I am not aware of any organization who actually can attain it without winning the lottery on a yearly basis .....
MSG Greg Kelly
MSG Greg Kelly
>1 y
The WWP is awesome I am an Alumni and it is the only organization to which I donate or belong. They offer help to Vets who need it and offer programs through well organized support groups to help Vets with everything finding peace of mind to physical recovery it is 100% Vet focused and every year they send out a questionnaire to Alumni asking the WWP members what services they would like to see that is great.
LTJG Robert M.
WWP is also anti gun, turned down a donation from gun manufacturer
CPO Culinary Specialist
CPO (Join to see)
>1 y
The religious donations (several) were turned down as they wanted to use the WWP logo and keep part of the funds raised for their program. That is against their bylaws. The NRA wanted to use them as a link from their site for donations, that is the same as lending their name to that. Most do not understand the need to stay out of the political arena in the non-profit world. It is easier to be destroyed by one of these groups and lose the non-profit status than by simply keeping the donations falling under the stated parameters for acceptance. People need to understand, these people deal with All Veterans, not just those who hunt or have guns and in fact many they help need to stay away from weapons as far as possible.
The same as people will sling trash on one side, they will on the other. I have been involved with many charities and disabled Vet support programs in the past 15 years. I have been able to help Vets get service dogs and support for those service dogs from the WWP each and every time without any issues. They are like any group, they have certain guidelines and programs they support and for the benefit of all involved, they stick to the programs.
As with any donations, charities or programs, if a person is stupid enough to just hand money away without checking where it goes, ...... like the saying goes, a fool and their money will soon be parted. That is just the truth.
SSG Maurice P.
SSG Maurice P.
>1 y
does most of the money go to help the wounded veterans?????
LTJG Robert M.
LTJG Robert M.
>1 y
WWP actually puts 58% of funds collected directly into Veterans hands
LTJG Robert M.
LTJG Robert M.
>1 y
Here are the worst!
MSG Wade Huffman
Edited >1 y ago
I've not had any direct involvement with them, but here is the review by Charity Navigator. Based on their numbers, it seems that other Veterans organizations are operating much more efficiently.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=12842#.VCw67WddWE4
CMSgt Robert Gates
CMSgt Robert Gates
>1 y
I also belong to Charity Navigator. Great site to go to when checking charitable organizations before I donate.
MSG Wade Huffman
MSG Wade Huffman
>1 y
CMSgt Robert Gates , I wholeheartedly agree! I like to know where my money is going to be used before I give. The stats that Charity Navigator provides are the most comprehensive that I have found.
LTC Jason Strickland
LTC Jason Strickland
>1 y
MSG Wade Huffman and CMSgt Robert Gates, another great resource with similar capacity to Charity Navigator is Guidestar:

http://www.guidestar.org/Home.aspx
CPO Sam Gilliland
Okay I can't stand quiet anymore. I used to work for WWP until about 6 months ago when I chose to leave due to moving back home. I was a Veterans Services Officer with them. They truly are there to help veterans.

1. 83% of income goes to its 20 different programs.

2. Steve Nardizzi's (CEO) salary is decided by the Board of Directors (all volunteers). That man developed the best not-for-profit out there. No one else even comes close. He works his butt off and so does the entire staff. If you don't believe me, try not paying your dues at your nonprofit and see what happens.

3. Everything that is done for its Alumni is free to the warrior. They truly get the five star treatment.

4. This crap about not standing for the 2nd amendment is crap. Some stupid radio station was trying to get their name out there, no comment does not mean you are against guns. I happen to know for a fact, many of the EVPs have guns. I have many guns never an issue. WWP policy is to no comment. Let their work show for itself.

5. They are there to EMPOWER warriors, not give them handouts. Handing out money does not help anyone. Putting them through a program like TRACK does. If WWP can't do something well, like emergency assistance, they partner with another organization that does it well and grant them money...like Operation Homefront.

6. I always hear I don't like them because they never even looked at my resume. I'm sorry but not every vet is going to get a job. If you want to know how they hire...read the book "Good to Great". The companies business practices follow it to a tee. They get over 2000 applicants per job. Interview process takes months...to ensure they get the right person on the bus.

7. Their VSOs are second to none. Most of them came from other organizations. When one helps you with your claim...they follow that claim all the way until it is complete. They also set up a diary so to ensure they call and give you news. We have all been there, any news on your claim even if nothing to report is good. Most of the time hang ups and errors can easily fixed by calling a VBA Coach or beating down there door....which is fully supported by the Chiefs at WWP and they are given the necessary tools.

8. The organization is only 10 years old. They are not in every state. They try to do things all over but areas get missed. They are growing give them time.

Time to get off my soapbox. I was able to personally help 100s of warriors and get many of them off the streets. You have any questions feel free to message me, I would be happy to answer whatever.
CDR Director, U.S. Navy Police
Yes, they have. With a CEO who never served making $300+k/year, and another 14 executives making $150+/year...combine that with the fact that only roughly 55-57% of the roughly $295M/year they rake in actually going to wounded vets and I would definitely say they have lost their focus.
SSG Platoon Sergeant
SSG (Join to see)
9 y
All I know is that there are MANY great organizations out there that could use the money a whole lot more than WWP.

I personally support The Fallen Outdoors.
SPC Fred Krauer
I stopped supporting them when they refused an interview on a pro 2A radio show because they do not wish to be associated with firearms. Funny, for years they had no problem setting up booths at gun shows around the country. I really don't like how their logo shows up on every type of promotional item available. Water bottles, hoodies, tee shirts, key rings and blankets. It gives the appearance that they care more about self promotion than the wounded. I've seen service members turn their backs on their reps when they show up at Walter Reed. I've also seen guys at Walter Reed wearing shirts that say "I'm a soldier/ marine... not a project."
TSgt Kevin Buccola
I do not give to these programs - i do my research on each I want to see how much executives and admin costs etc...I am a numbers person - need to see the actual amount or percentages that go to the Veteran.
CPT Bruce Rodgers
I think the biggest problem that people have with WWP is that they take in so much money, their assistance should be more apparent
SPC Chad Kolod
SPC Chad Kolod
9 y
I can see what your saying, but I would have to say that I think a lot of it comes down to missed opportunities. You have to actually seek out there programs and register for them. I just signed up for an all-star fantasy baseball camp with the red sox. The WWP is paying for travel meals and the whole week long experience. I think a lot of people are waiting for the WWP to just give them stuff or present them with some kind of individualized opportunities. The CEO does make a lot, but it's roughly 1 10th of what other CEO's make. Nothing will ever be perfect, but don't you think people should be great fun for any help they get?
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
9 y
They actually have really high transparency marks. Something like 96%. They don't hide much. The overhead (payroll, advertising, etc) costs are high, but its not hidden.
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
9 y
SPC Chad Kolod You just described "context" which a lot of posts are missing. It's easy to look a fraction of the puzzle and come to a conclusion. Recently, WWP has appeared in Social Media, and we're seeing very few pieces of the puzzle.

Because our brain naturally tries to "fill in the blanks" based on previous experiences, a lot of false assumptions can happen. The more information that we have, the better context we have.

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