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Posted on Jul 19, 2018
SSG Gerhard S.
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SSG Edward Tilton
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You served or you did not. It should be a requirement of elective office
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
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This was a fairly long post. So, I will offer a fairly short answer.

No. We got the better deal.
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Well said Sir! Brevity was never my strong point.
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SSG Edward Tilton
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It isn’t the actual draft that is the issue. The rich could go to college, they could get into a reserve unit.etc etc. Normal people wound up moving their draft forward because they couldn’t get a decent job until they had served. None of it effected me, I enlisted stead at 17, without even completing High School. I had no interest in life outside the Army. It was/is class warfare
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SSgt Robert Van Buhler III
SSgt Robert Van Buhler III
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That is how I felt; my life after high school was on hold. I informed the draft board of address changes when I moved, but I asked for no deferments. I was not called for a draft physical until I was nearly 22. I didn't spin my wheels, though. I spent two years getting a technical education and another couple getting a start on an electronics career, knowing I would probably be drafted. I formed no strong romantic attachments because of that sword over my head. My draft board exercised unrequested neighborhood discrimination, I believe, based on "zipcode." On the day I went to Fort Wayne to leave for Lackland AFB, every male I grew up with in a six or eight block radius was there waiting for induction into the Army. Every one of them was 19-22 YO. You could say the draft favored many over others, including me, but I didn't spin my wheels waiting for it or didn't come from a wealthy family. Today, years later, I recognize how the draft can be abused and make some classes or races of people available to be used for cannon fodder. But my conclusion is your life is what you make of it, and if you waste your life spinning your wheels, it's on you. Hats off your jumping right in. We came out with some rewards from the VA for our service that compensated a bit.
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SGT Greg Gold
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If you dodged the draft, you're a douche bag! There, I said it. As other have pointed out there were many many many ways to legally avoid being drafted. I know numer people who used dererments to stay out of the military, but they played by the rules.
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for sharing your perspective.
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
PO2 Robert Cuminale
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It's the motivation to play by those rules that is in question. Did they honestly go to college to get an education or to earn the deferment?
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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PO2 Robert Cuminale - Does it really matter, if those are the "rules"?
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
PO2 Robert Cuminale
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It matters in a moral sense although the person himself would have to acknowledge it. I doubt that most of the people who used the rules to their benefit without honest intentions probably see all life that way. They use rules to gain a benefit and to hell with others.
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SSG Richard Brue
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Why would you ask that question? How long ago was that. They did what they did and they have had to live with that. We all did what we felt was right for us and we honorably volunteered and did our time. To me, it's not our place to judge.
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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SSG Richard Brue,
Respectfully, I asked this question because there WERE/ARE a lot of people judging, and doing so for political purposes, and without regard to the nature of the draft itself. Which I, and many others apparently, believe there is room for discussion.
Regards
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SP5 Derick Johnsohne
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i'm not . to each one's own moral decision, since for some the war was political .
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CPL John Sutor
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Can't agree , how can you call him Commander in Chief if he used some fake ass heel spurs plus 3 deferments. I'll be 75 tomorrow , joined at 18 ; trump same age led some bullshit life , scamming and scamming . 58,000 + names didn't die in vane, if your country calls you go , or else we just give up too the very thing that our Forefathers , Fathers , Brothers, Sisters , Mothers ,fought an died for . My dad stormed
Omaha Beach, captured spent the next 345 days in Stalga 4 b Mulberg Germany. 54 men im my Company were KIA in Vietnam. Aco/2nd/502.101st Abn 1966. We went trump ran.
58,000 were not loser's as trump implied, POWs were not loser's as he spoke of John McCain.
While we were defending he was grabbing pussie.
So , the Veterans that are willing to follow trump I personally can't understand their thought process , but wouldn't deny that they served ,not servitude, nor slavery , but love of country.
Mutual Respect
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, history, and experiences. Respectfully, though, this question wasn't really about President Trump, it was about the nature of compulsory service. Regards.
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SSG Edward Tilton
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Draft boards were local. It always seemed to me there were a lot of 26 year olds who finished college and got drafted. I was a 21year old E6 and I learned to use them
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SSgt Robert Van Buhler III
SSgt Robert Van Buhler III
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Bill Clinton falls into the same category as Trump on deferments. Outrage can be selective. Clinton was a far better President than Jimmy Carter, a Naval Officer, or LBJ Naval officer reserve, who got us so deep in Vietnam, it took a lot of American blood to get out. And Bill Clinton was doing as much pecker poking around as Trump or more.
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
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SSgt Robert Van Buhler III - In the case of pecker poking, Clinton did it while he was IN office. Trump never did, while in office (exceptions for Melania, of course). I personally think that's a huge distinctions. Also, Trump did the less savory stuff while he was a Democrat. Respects to SSG Seidel; this post is not about politics.
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CPT William Jones
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oddle enough reading you views andnotice you mentioned the civil war the first time i guess that drafted people and it was the yankies doing it.and you could buy tour way out.
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SSG Edward Tilton
SSG Edward Tilton
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The Confederacy had a draft too and it cost $1500 to buy your way out. In some places slave owners were not drafted.
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Capt Loren Morgan
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I agree with your arguments regarding the draft and deferments. I used my college deferment for 4 years and after graduation joined up as an officer. Served for 20 years. I believe that what many are not happy about regarding Trump is that he found a dishonest doctor to say he had bone spurs and therefore could not serve. To much like the Civil war when rich people paid others to serve in their place.
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PO3 Edward Riddle
PO3 Edward Riddle
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What if you are wrong about the bone spurs and he really had them? What excuse did Stimbling Joe Biden use?
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SGT Mark Anderson
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In most cases, "yes". President Clinton did no better.
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