Posted on Dec 5, 2018
CENTCOM Nominee Admits Afghan Military Would Collapse If US Left
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Thank you my friend CW5 Jack Cardwell for sharing the Task and Purpose news that Marine Lt. Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr. the nominee to lead U.S. Central Command told Congressional lawmakers that:
1. Afghanistan’s security forces are taking unsustainable casualties and would collapse if all U.S. troops withdrew.
2. that both the U.S. military and Taliban are “in a stalemate,” and that happened to be the most optimistic part of his description of the security situation.
3. The most important issue facing Afghan security forces right now is improving how they recruit and train the combat forces,
"Since 2015, nearly 29,000 Afghan troops and police have been killed, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani said earlier this month.
The most important issue facing Afghan security forces right now is improving how they recruit and train the combat forces, McKenzie said during his confirmation hearing.
“Their losses have been very high,” McKenzie said. “They’re fighting hard but their losses are not going to be sustainable unless we correct this problem. I know it has Gen. [Austin] Miller’s direct attention and, if confirmed, it would be something that I would like to work with him on as a matter of great importance.”
While Afghan security forces have shown improvement, they are still too weak to stand on their own, McKenzie said.
On Tuesday, Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.) asked McKenzie how much longer it would take until Afghan troops and police could secure their country without the assistance of thousands of U.S. troops.
“They’re not there yet,” McKenzie replied. “If we left precipitously right now, I do not believe they would be able to successfully defend their country. I don’t know how long it’s going to take. I think that one of the things that would actually provide the most damage to them would be if we put a time line on it and we said we were going out at a certain point in time. As we’ve seen when we precipitously withdrew from Iraq earlier, certain effects probably follow from that.”
When Peters asked what the U.S. military is doing differently now compared to the past 17 years, McKenzie said he understood the lawmaker’s frustration, adding that both he and his son have each deployed to Afghanistan twice.
Right now, Afghan troops and police are shouldering the majority of the burden in the fight against the Taliban, he said.
“Americans are still at risk,” McKenzie said. “As we saw tragically last week, Americans are still going to go into harm’s way and some of them may die. But we are no longer doing the fighting. They are doing the fighting — they’re doing it imperfectly, but they are doing it with our assistance. That is actually a new thing.”
One lawmaker posed an existential question on Tuesday when Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) asked McKenzie what the United States should say to the families of Americans and Afghans killed in 2018.
“Sir, what we are doing is we are protecting the homeland of United States from being attacked – that’s what you say to the Americans, and that’s a clear, visible tangible effort that you can honor them for,” McKenzie replied.
“For the Afghans who have died, it’s an attempt to come to a long, peaceful political settlement in their country. I think that too is an honorable goal. I think Afghans and Americans who have died in action in Afghanistan have all been pursuing an honorable and reasonable objective.”
FYI LTC Orlando Illi Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. "Bill" Price CPT Jack Durish Capt Tom Brown CMSgt (Join to see) MSG Andrew White SFC William Farrell SGT (Join to see) Sgt Albert Castro SSgt Boyd Herrst] SSG Ray Adkins SGT Carl Beerbaur SGT Charles H. Hawes SSG Martin Byrne PO1 William "Chip" Nagel CPT Gabe SnellLTC Greg Henning
1. Afghanistan’s security forces are taking unsustainable casualties and would collapse if all U.S. troops withdrew.
2. that both the U.S. military and Taliban are “in a stalemate,” and that happened to be the most optimistic part of his description of the security situation.
3. The most important issue facing Afghan security forces right now is improving how they recruit and train the combat forces,
"Since 2015, nearly 29,000 Afghan troops and police have been killed, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani said earlier this month.
The most important issue facing Afghan security forces right now is improving how they recruit and train the combat forces, McKenzie said during his confirmation hearing.
“Their losses have been very high,” McKenzie said. “They’re fighting hard but their losses are not going to be sustainable unless we correct this problem. I know it has Gen. [Austin] Miller’s direct attention and, if confirmed, it would be something that I would like to work with him on as a matter of great importance.”
While Afghan security forces have shown improvement, they are still too weak to stand on their own, McKenzie said.
On Tuesday, Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.) asked McKenzie how much longer it would take until Afghan troops and police could secure their country without the assistance of thousands of U.S. troops.
“They’re not there yet,” McKenzie replied. “If we left precipitously right now, I do not believe they would be able to successfully defend their country. I don’t know how long it’s going to take. I think that one of the things that would actually provide the most damage to them would be if we put a time line on it and we said we were going out at a certain point in time. As we’ve seen when we precipitously withdrew from Iraq earlier, certain effects probably follow from that.”
When Peters asked what the U.S. military is doing differently now compared to the past 17 years, McKenzie said he understood the lawmaker’s frustration, adding that both he and his son have each deployed to Afghanistan twice.
Right now, Afghan troops and police are shouldering the majority of the burden in the fight against the Taliban, he said.
“Americans are still at risk,” McKenzie said. “As we saw tragically last week, Americans are still going to go into harm’s way and some of them may die. But we are no longer doing the fighting. They are doing the fighting — they’re doing it imperfectly, but they are doing it with our assistance. That is actually a new thing.”
One lawmaker posed an existential question on Tuesday when Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) asked McKenzie what the United States should say to the families of Americans and Afghans killed in 2018.
“Sir, what we are doing is we are protecting the homeland of United States from being attacked – that’s what you say to the Americans, and that’s a clear, visible tangible effort that you can honor them for,” McKenzie replied.
“For the Afghans who have died, it’s an attempt to come to a long, peaceful political settlement in their country. I think that too is an honorable goal. I think Afghans and Americans who have died in action in Afghanistan have all been pursuing an honorable and reasonable objective.”
FYI LTC Orlando Illi Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. "Bill" Price CPT Jack Durish Capt Tom Brown CMSgt (Join to see) MSG Andrew White SFC William Farrell SGT (Join to see) Sgt Albert Castro SSgt Boyd Herrst] SSG Ray Adkins SGT Carl Beerbaur SGT Charles H. Hawes SSG Martin Byrne PO1 William "Chip" Nagel CPT Gabe SnellLTC Greg Henning
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
I’m thinking that part of the problem is infiltration into the ranks by Taliban forces .. those members disappear as quickly as they appeared.. and shortly after the security forces are decimated by the Taliban because they know of weak points...(IMHO).
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
SSgt Boyd Herrst when new recruits are brought in, it would seem to be a smart move to NOT allow familiarity with various points of security until new troops can be vetted.
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
SSgt Boyd Herrst I had read of a infiltrator(double agent) that had been on staff for years and knew of command weak points and had even suggested and allowed to make points even weaker. He observed strong troops that knew their stuff and had them sent out to remote forward points so they be “out of the way”.
When the “SHTF” and aggressors he was really associated with had better success... I believe he was found out by someone he thought have the same motive(s) and turned on him..
When the “SHTF” and aggressors he was really associated with had better success... I believe he was found out by someone he thought have the same motive(s) and turned on him..
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