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President Joe Biden's ambassador to Germany is attracting controversy again, this time over payments she received before leaving her previous job.
Gutmann received $23 million in deferred compensation, which was earned over her 18-year tenure leading the university.
In 2017, Gutmann named Biden a professor at the school and he was paid $911,000 over the next three years despite not teaching any classes.
Gutmann received $23 million in deferred compensation, which was earned over her 18-year tenure leading the university.
In 2017, Gutmann named Biden a professor at the school and he was paid $911,000 over the next three years despite not teaching any classes.
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I don't like MSN's news aggregation service as it tends to hide disreputable sources. In this case, The Washington Examiner.
Now the article is completely misleading on Biden's role. It states "despite not teching any classes". While this is technically true, it is purposely misleading.
"According to a report by the Philadelphia Inquirer, he “collected $371,159 in 2017 plus $540,484 in 2018 and early 2019 for a vaguely defined role that involved no regular classes and around a dozen public appearances on campus, mostly in big, ticketed events.”
Biden’s professorship did involve him delivering numerous talks and lectures. In 2017, soon after the position was announced, his spokesperson Kate Bedingfield told UPenn’s newspaper The Daily Pennsylvanian that he would not be teaching traditional classes.
Alongside his professorship title, he officially held joint appointments in the Annenberg School for Communication and the School of Arts and Sciences, with a secondary affiliation in the Wharton School."
Why do coleges give big pay to people to do some talks? The same reason they give big payouts for well known personalities to do graduation speeches. If rakes in the donations for the university. Biden was basically "on retainer" to give such speeches for them giving them the fundraising power that comes with it.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-professor-university-pennsylvania/
Now the article is completely misleading on Biden's role. It states "despite not teching any classes". While this is technically true, it is purposely misleading.
"According to a report by the Philadelphia Inquirer, he “collected $371,159 in 2017 plus $540,484 in 2018 and early 2019 for a vaguely defined role that involved no regular classes and around a dozen public appearances on campus, mostly in big, ticketed events.”
Biden’s professorship did involve him delivering numerous talks and lectures. In 2017, soon after the position was announced, his spokesperson Kate Bedingfield told UPenn’s newspaper The Daily Pennsylvanian that he would not be teaching traditional classes.
Alongside his professorship title, he officially held joint appointments in the Annenberg School for Communication and the School of Arts and Sciences, with a secondary affiliation in the Wharton School."
Why do coleges give big pay to people to do some talks? The same reason they give big payouts for well known personalities to do graduation speeches. If rakes in the donations for the university. Biden was basically "on retainer" to give such speeches for them giving them the fundraising power that comes with it.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-professor-university-pennsylvania/
Was Biden a ‘Full Professor’ at the University of Pennsylvania?
And how much was he paid for the gig?
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Maj John Bell
What is "numerous?"
"But it sounds to us like Biden’s professorship is really more of speaking residency. He’s been on campus so infrequently that it becomes news when he actually is there. The Daily Pennsylvanian even took to publishing a photo essay documenting each appearance: four times each in 2017 and 2018, and twice this year."
Source: The Daily Pennsylvanian.
He did give 47 speeches during that time period elsewhere but he was paid. Starting at a flat fee of not less than $100K per speech.
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/07/10/joe-biden-penn-salary/
"But it sounds to us like Biden’s professorship is really more of speaking residency. He’s been on campus so infrequently that it becomes news when he actually is there. The Daily Pennsylvanian even took to publishing a photo essay documenting each appearance: four times each in 2017 and 2018, and twice this year."
Source: The Daily Pennsylvanian.
He did give 47 speeches during that time period elsewhere but he was paid. Starting at a flat fee of not less than $100K per speech.
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/07/10/joe-biden-penn-salary/
Penn Paid Joe Biden $775,000 to Expand Its “Global Outreach” … and Give Some Speeches
The former VP’s financial disclosures reveal that his annual salary was nearly double that of the average Penn prof — and he didn’t even have to teach.
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SPC Kevin Ford
Maj John Bell - One or two would be enough. Freaking Clinton gets $700k a speech. Not bad for a few hours work.
https://www.thoughtco.com/former-presidents-speaking-fees-3368127
Like I said, it isn't that Biden did nothing for that money. He gave some speeches so the university could rake in donations.
Just in case you don't understand the magnitude of the fundraising money coming in and how $900k is nothing to pay to increase it:
"On Friday, April 22, Penn State donors and administration convened in the Bryce Jordan Center to celebrate the university’s “A Greater Penn State For 21st Century Excellence” fundraising campaign.
The initiative, which has been active for more than six years, has raised $2,166,032,798 so far, Penn State said, and will continue running until June 30. The campaign originated through President Eric Barron’s efforts to further Penn State’s development."
https://onwardstate.com/2022/04/26/a-greater-penn-state-campaign-raises-2-17-billion-counting/
That's over $2 billion, billion with a b. As of last year, Penn State's endowment was $4.6 billion.
https://www.thoughtco.com/former-presidents-speaking-fees-3368127
Like I said, it isn't that Biden did nothing for that money. He gave some speeches so the university could rake in donations.
Just in case you don't understand the magnitude of the fundraising money coming in and how $900k is nothing to pay to increase it:
"On Friday, April 22, Penn State donors and administration convened in the Bryce Jordan Center to celebrate the university’s “A Greater Penn State For 21st Century Excellence” fundraising campaign.
The initiative, which has been active for more than six years, has raised $2,166,032,798 so far, Penn State said, and will continue running until June 30. The campaign originated through President Eric Barron’s efforts to further Penn State’s development."
https://onwardstate.com/2022/04/26/a-greater-penn-state-campaign-raises-2-17-billion-counting/
That's over $2 billion, billion with a b. As of last year, Penn State's endowment was $4.6 billion.
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Maj John Bell
SPC Kevin Ford - The 47 speeches weren't paid to UPenn. They were paid to Former VP Biden.
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Your comments sound like you think that the only role professors have is to teach. Is that correct?
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LTC Kevin B.
Maj John Bell - You just proved that your post was all just political, and everything else was baseless and uninformed subterfuge. You appear to know very little about the different roles of professors and/or the historical norms of people moving between political positions and the world of academics.
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Maj John Bell
LTC Kevin B. - Wow! That's quite the leap of logic. All the people you mentioned were there. They were present. And they were ADMINISTRATORS. They did wat academic administrators do. If they did stints as professors, they ACTUALLY taught classes.
Professor Biden was decidedly NOT there, and he was a "professor." It's right in the faculty handbook "The handbook describes the "PRIMARY" [emphasis mine] activity of a practice professor as TEACHING [emphasis Mine], though they may also "supervise independent studies and internships, serve on committees and attend school faculty meetings." Note, it says "also" not "instead."
Did he supervise independent studies or internships on those handful of days where he was present. If he served on committees via teleconferencing, why not just say so? Same for faculty meetings.
Subterfuge: an artifice or expedient used to evade a rule, escape a consequence, hide something, etc. But you are you are slipping toward the ad hominem.
I'm not evading a rule. I'm not escaping a consequence. I'm not hiding anything. I don't care for President Biden or any other democrat's governance. I said it before and I'll say it again.
I'm not a President Trump guy either. I don't have a problem with what he did or tried to do in office. But his personality is "un-presidential." Presidents need to be consensus builders. President Trump is not. Both parties presented unacceptable candidates for the 2016 and 2020 election. I had to decide if I wanted to shoot myself in the foot or the hand.
I would like an accounting of what professor Biden did do earn his pay. A direct dumbed down version if need be. It's clear you're not the man to doit. You aren't actually directly addressing a single point I've made. If you won't even bother to refute them, why should I change my mind? I don't think your defense of President Biden holds up.
Professor Biden was decidedly NOT there, and he was a "professor." It's right in the faculty handbook "The handbook describes the "PRIMARY" [emphasis mine] activity of a practice professor as TEACHING [emphasis Mine], though they may also "supervise independent studies and internships, serve on committees and attend school faculty meetings." Note, it says "also" not "instead."
Did he supervise independent studies or internships on those handful of days where he was present. If he served on committees via teleconferencing, why not just say so? Same for faculty meetings.
Subterfuge: an artifice or expedient used to evade a rule, escape a consequence, hide something, etc. But you are you are slipping toward the ad hominem.
I'm not evading a rule. I'm not escaping a consequence. I'm not hiding anything. I don't care for President Biden or any other democrat's governance. I said it before and I'll say it again.
I'm not a President Trump guy either. I don't have a problem with what he did or tried to do in office. But his personality is "un-presidential." Presidents need to be consensus builders. President Trump is not. Both parties presented unacceptable candidates for the 2016 and 2020 election. I had to decide if I wanted to shoot myself in the foot or the hand.
I would like an accounting of what professor Biden did do earn his pay. A direct dumbed down version if need be. It's clear you're not the man to doit. You aren't actually directly addressing a single point I've made. If you won't even bother to refute them, why should I change my mind? I don't think your defense of President Biden holds up.
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LTC Kevin B.
Maj John Bell - I'm defending a role within a setting that you know very little about. Your only relevant insight is having sat in some classrooms and having done a Google search for the Penn faculty handbook. That hardly qualifies you to cast the judgment you're so feebly trying to make. Good luck continuing to argue with yourself.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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Maj John Bell
Her annual salary was over $3.5 million. I wonder if she is one of those liberal/progressive democrats that rails against the distribution of wealth in America. Tuition at UPenn is a mere $56 thousand per year. The average salary of a UPenn professor, (the one's that actually step in front of a class) is about $175,000. Why is President Biden worth 5 times that to not teach.
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