Posted on Dec 28, 2018
No More Bread and Water: U.S. Navy Scraps an Age-Old Penalty
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel wow, I never knew that, softer and gently UCMJ IMHO.
On New Year’s Day, it will finally go by the boards.
A sweeping update of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, passed by Congress in 2016, will take effect on Jan. 1, bringing dozens of changes that are intended to make the system fairer and more efficient. Most are the kind of procedural tweaks that concern lawyers, not sailors. But the bread-and-water part will be felt on all decks.
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On New Year’s Day, it will finally go by the boards.
A sweeping update of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, passed by Congress in 2016, will take effect on Jan. 1, bringing dozens of changes that are intended to make the system fairer and more efficient. Most are the kind of procedural tweaks that concern lawyers, not sailors. But the bread-and-water part will be felt on all decks.
Samantha S. Maj Marty Hogan SGT (Join to see) SGT Philip Roncari SPC Margaret Higgins SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth CW5 Jack CardwellCOL Mikel J. Burroughs CPL Dave HooverLTC Stephen F. SSG William Jones Lt Col Charlie Brown PO1 Tony Holland TSgt Joe C. PV2 Mark Zehner SGT Mark Estes LTC (Join to see) Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Maj William W. 'Bill' Price
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Once had a sailor was eligible for B&W, none of us in the chain of command could recommend it, it seemed just too harsh...
Shortly thereafter, I think the only ones eligible to proscribe it were the shore brigs..
Don't mind the change, always thought if you had to resort to that, you had already failed as a leader, and we had in the one sailor's case (although he did straighten up after).
Shortly thereafter, I think the only ones eligible to proscribe it were the shore brigs..
Don't mind the change, always thought if you had to resort to that, you had already failed as a leader, and we had in the one sailor's case (although he did straighten up after).
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There have been quite a few comments on this topic over a few threads the past few days. “..always thought if you had to resort to that, you had already failed as a leader..” is probably the most insightful comment thus far.
Well stated.
Well stated.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
I agree with you, however I've been debating this in my head for the last few days. B&W in lieu of loss of pay or rank is one of those short vs longterm repercussion issues. If a command is using it as a "rip the bandaid off" type of punishment so they don't have to destroy someone's career and/or hurt the Sailors family.. I can see the logic.
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I didn't know the Navy could still do that, I think there are a lot of other things that could be done without cutting healthy food rations. That did seem like something left from the middle ages.
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