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From: Army Times
U.S. and Iraqi military planners are gearing up for the long-awaited battle of Mosul, which will likely begin in April or May and mount a fighting force of up to 25,000 Iraqi and Kurdish troops to force out the Islamic extremists who have controlled the city for nine months.
In a rare public disclosure of future battle plans, a U.S. Central Command official outlined the operational planning for reporters in a briefing Thursday.
Current planning envisions that five Iraqi army brigades of "fighting forces," backed by three Kurdish peshmerga brigades, will "contain from the north," the CENTCOM official said.
Plans also call for a "Mosul fighting force" that will include many former Mosul police officers and Sunni tribesmen, which will push into the densely populated neighborhoods of the predominantly Sunni city, the official said.
For months, U.S. military officials have pointed to Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city, as a major milestone in the campaign against the Islamic State group, which has about 1,000 to 2,000 fighters in Mosul, the CENTCOM official said.
Mosul is the largest city controlled by the Islamic State across its territory in Iraq and Syria and is central to the group's stated intention to recreate an Islamic caliphate. Islamic State forces seized the city in June as several Iraqi army brigades offered no resistance, fleeing the advancing militants and abandoning arsenals of U.S.-made weaponry.
Preparations now underway include "shaping and isolating" the future battlefield of Mosul and providing U.S.-led training for the Iraqi troops who will be fighting. The CENTCOM official said U.S. and Iraqi military planners want to launch the invasion in April or May, in part to avoid the worst of Iraq's summer heat and this year's Ramadan holiday that begins in June.
But that timeframe will be slipped if the Iraqis are not considered ready, the official said.
"If they are not ready, if the conditions are not set ... we have not closed the door on sliding that to the right," the CENTCOM official said of the operation's timing.
About 2,600 U.S. troops are in Iraq, many of them advising, assisting and training Iraqi troops.
It's unclear whether the invasion of Mosul will include a small number of American forces on the ground with Iraqi combat troops to serve as joint terminal attack controllers, or JTACs, to help provide accurate targeting information for U.S. air support.
Pentagon officials say no American JTACs have been on the ground to this point. During the final planning phases for the invasion of Mosul, the potential need for JTACs will be evaluated and options presented up the chain of command for President Obama to consider, the CENTCOM official said.
It is highly unusual for military officials to offer planning details about future operations. When a reporter asked the CENTCOM official, who spoke during an official briefing on condition of anonymity, why he was providing the details, he said it was to show "the level of commitment [the Iraqis] have to this. ... This is their plan, they have bought into it."
The official said the overall effort to defeat the Islamic State, also referred to as ISIL, is going well.
"Militarily, ISIL is in decline," he said. "The military component, the military part of the campaign remains on track" and is "generally unfolding as planned."
He downplayed the suggestion that the Islamic State's influence was expanding beyond Iraq, saying that the group provides "leadership and inspiration" to militant forces that have been operating for years in countries like Afghanistan and Libya.
And he downplayed the attack on Feb. 13 when about 25 Islamic State militants dressed in Iraqi army uniforms attacked the perimeter of al-Asad Air Base in Anbar province. About 320 U.S. troops are helping to train Iraqi troops and Sunni tribal militias were on the sprawling base but were not involved in the fighting or injured.
The CENTCOM official referred to that as "micro-offensive capability" that exists to a limited degree despite a defensive posture overall and a broader erosion of ISIL power.
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/02/19/centcom-battle-of-mosul-could-begin-in-april/23697219/
U.S. and Iraqi military planners are gearing up for the long-awaited battle of Mosul, which will likely begin in April or May and mount a fighting force of up to 25,000 Iraqi and Kurdish troops to force out the Islamic extremists who have controlled the city for nine months.
In a rare public disclosure of future battle plans, a U.S. Central Command official outlined the operational planning for reporters in a briefing Thursday.
Current planning envisions that five Iraqi army brigades of "fighting forces," backed by three Kurdish peshmerga brigades, will "contain from the north," the CENTCOM official said.
Plans also call for a "Mosul fighting force" that will include many former Mosul police officers and Sunni tribesmen, which will push into the densely populated neighborhoods of the predominantly Sunni city, the official said.
For months, U.S. military officials have pointed to Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city, as a major milestone in the campaign against the Islamic State group, which has about 1,000 to 2,000 fighters in Mosul, the CENTCOM official said.
Mosul is the largest city controlled by the Islamic State across its territory in Iraq and Syria and is central to the group's stated intention to recreate an Islamic caliphate. Islamic State forces seized the city in June as several Iraqi army brigades offered no resistance, fleeing the advancing militants and abandoning arsenals of U.S.-made weaponry.
Preparations now underway include "shaping and isolating" the future battlefield of Mosul and providing U.S.-led training for the Iraqi troops who will be fighting. The CENTCOM official said U.S. and Iraqi military planners want to launch the invasion in April or May, in part to avoid the worst of Iraq's summer heat and this year's Ramadan holiday that begins in June.
But that timeframe will be slipped if the Iraqis are not considered ready, the official said.
"If they are not ready, if the conditions are not set ... we have not closed the door on sliding that to the right," the CENTCOM official said of the operation's timing.
About 2,600 U.S. troops are in Iraq, many of them advising, assisting and training Iraqi troops.
It's unclear whether the invasion of Mosul will include a small number of American forces on the ground with Iraqi combat troops to serve as joint terminal attack controllers, or JTACs, to help provide accurate targeting information for U.S. air support.
Pentagon officials say no American JTACs have been on the ground to this point. During the final planning phases for the invasion of Mosul, the potential need for JTACs will be evaluated and options presented up the chain of command for President Obama to consider, the CENTCOM official said.
It is highly unusual for military officials to offer planning details about future operations. When a reporter asked the CENTCOM official, who spoke during an official briefing on condition of anonymity, why he was providing the details, he said it was to show "the level of commitment [the Iraqis] have to this. ... This is their plan, they have bought into it."
The official said the overall effort to defeat the Islamic State, also referred to as ISIL, is going well.
"Militarily, ISIL is in decline," he said. "The military component, the military part of the campaign remains on track" and is "generally unfolding as planned."
He downplayed the suggestion that the Islamic State's influence was expanding beyond Iraq, saying that the group provides "leadership and inspiration" to militant forces that have been operating for years in countries like Afghanistan and Libya.
And he downplayed the attack on Feb. 13 when about 25 Islamic State militants dressed in Iraqi army uniforms attacked the perimeter of al-Asad Air Base in Anbar province. About 320 U.S. troops are helping to train Iraqi troops and Sunni tribal militias were on the sprawling base but were not involved in the fighting or injured.
The CENTCOM official referred to that as "micro-offensive capability" that exists to a limited degree despite a defensive posture overall and a broader erosion of ISIL power.
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/02/19/centcom-battle-of-mosul-could-begin-in-april/23697219/
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"Hello Sitting Bull, this is Custer. I'll be leaving my gatlling guns behind." "Hey Adolph, Does June work for you, v/r....Ike."
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SFC Mark Merino
Let's hope this is some sort of master plan of genius that I don't pretend to understand.
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SSgt (Join to see)
The subtleties of this plan are too complex for us 'common folk' to understand...
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Isn't this like telling the opposing team the play you're about to run? Or maybe there is some deeper strategy at play and I missed it...?
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SSgt (Join to see)
Like running up behind someone to do a sneak attack, but yelling out "SNEAK ATTACK!!!!" as you're running up.
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MSgt Keith Hebert
I believe 100% LTC Paul Labrador with you.
This administration is doing this as a way to get the citizens of this country to leave him alone.
"I can't accomplish my domestic ruin if yall expect me to stop Isis "
This is a dog and pony show
This administration is doing this as a way to get the citizens of this country to leave him alone.
"I can't accomplish my domestic ruin if yall expect me to stop Isis "
This is a dog and pony show
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I fought in Mosul in 2003. It is one hell of a city to take. If I were ISIL I would be sending a thank you letter to the US for leaking this info. They can now posture their forces to take advantage of them. If I were ISIL. I would move unit even farther north and deny the enemy the ability to contain the north end of the city. Then I would try to move around the city to attack their rear. I think this is more of a political ploy than anything else. I doubt Iraq even has that many soldiers that can conduct an attack. They had 3 brigades in Mosul and they all run away. Now they have 5 that are going to go back and fight. I am pretty sure some of the quitters are in those 5 brigades. I am sure they are going to do great if they do attack.
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SrA (Join to see)
1LT Eric Rosa My Cousin was a Surveyor for 52nd Eng Company 101st was KIA nov 2003 I always like to ask people that were there When he was to see who they were assigned to have ran into a few people that were assigned with him that way
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I was at the Division Main, aka the mosul palace. They had units there but most were at the Airport. I spent time there and at the Kurdish area. SrA (Join to see)
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SrA (Join to see) He would have been at we called D-Rear. It was the Mosul Airport. It was the only airport that was in the city that I knew of. It was messed up a bit but after we took it over we were rebuilding it to accommodate aircraft. I got there by Helicopter. I don't think it was functioning at the time we got there.
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Why don't we try to line up corporate sponsors and sell advertising while we're at it? This is ridiculous!
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MAJ (Join to see)
...And by, The USAID Job Fair! When it's time to trade your sword in for plowshares, come on over to the Job Fair!
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SPC Chris Benamati
Reminds me of the John Cusack movie "War, Inc" LMAO!! Maybe that's what they're using as a playbook....
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MAJ (Join to see), I totally agree Sir. This is THE DUMBEST thing that I have ever seen concerning the military. What if Ike had done the same thing with D-Day?
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SFC Boots Attaway
SSG Rob Cline , I know I just wish our leadership had the gonads that Ike and Patton had. We need some leaders like them and President Reagan.
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We preach OPSEC all the time, we punish Soldiers for violating OPSEC, but I bet no one will be held accountable for this OPSEC violation that could cost Soldiers lives.
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LCpl Barney Gaumer
CIC can do whatever he wants these days and that's where this is coming down from? Speaker Boehner wont challenge BHO so he will continue to rule instead of govern.
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I am sure the "Extremists" are well aware of this operation and will do the same things the Vietnamese did during that war. Wait for the armies to overun their positions and then come out of holes, tunnels and caves to destroy their logistics, command and control. David and Goliath.
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Why the Pentagon wants you to know its Mosul war plan
The Pentagon and Iraqi military commanders are hoping to avoid a massive, bloody battle in Iraq's second largest city.
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Sgt Joshua Anderson
I'm honestly hoping that this is just blatant misdirection and we aren't REALLY giving out any sort of info like that. I'd like to think that the top brass couldn't be that stupid.
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SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD
I would rather think that the US will not be involved in this battle. The powers that be don't have a stomach for confrontation. The so called advisers, who in my humble opinion, know diddly, will recommend a stupid move, and the rest will be history. Same old, same old.
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Have we faxed, emailed, and built a webpage in arabic so they can read the full plans yet?
There is only one way this makes any sense at all, and that is if this is a ploy to move them into an area, to clear out another area to strike at. Do I feel this is what happened? Nope, this is an epic mistake, and is going to cost A LOT of lives.
There is only one way this makes any sense at all, and that is if this is a ploy to move them into an area, to clear out another area to strike at. Do I feel this is what happened? Nope, this is an epic mistake, and is going to cost A LOT of lives.
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Some people say that these big dummies in ISIS are like what happened when Hitler and his Storm Troopers were harassing Jews and claiming territory in the 1930"s, give me a break, are you kidding? In no way do these people match the horror of the Nazi Regime. No way. Nor are they claiming 1/100th of the lives that were lost under Hitler. Some people just don't know history and the deaths that occurred by 1915 exactly a century ago. World War I was already under way. The the 20th Century with Hitler, Stalin, the Khmer Rouge, Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, Rowanda, and all the other "dirty wars" had claimed millions of lives. Read this article;
http://cnsnews.com/commentary/patrick-j-buchanan/best-times-or-worst-times
If we think that this is the end times because of these morons then our perception of the threat is over exaggerated. Yeah, yeah we should stop Iran from getting nukes, I agree. But I suggest we think more about why ISIS came into being rather that simply think about their destruction. Their sons and daughters are little now and some day they will fill their dead fathers and mothers shoes to shoot at my grandchildren maybe, who knows. Let solve this issue with real world solutions and not just big guns and bombs.
http://cnsnews.com/commentary/patrick-j-buchanan/best-times-or-worst-times
If we think that this is the end times because of these morons then our perception of the threat is over exaggerated. Yeah, yeah we should stop Iran from getting nukes, I agree. But I suggest we think more about why ISIS came into being rather that simply think about their destruction. Their sons and daughters are little now and some day they will fill their dead fathers and mothers shoes to shoot at my grandchildren maybe, who knows. Let solve this issue with real world solutions and not just big guns and bombs.
Best of Times or Worst of Times?
Despite our outrage over the barbarity of ISIS — beheadings of journalists and aid workers by "Jihadi John," and of Christians on a beach — this century does not remotely rival in evil the bloodiest century of them all, the 20th.
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CPT Craig Church, ASLA, LEED GA
ISIS is only using the media to exaggerate their profile and we are letting them do it by believing they are bigger than they are. Maybe they will attract followers but they will never achieve the prominence, organization, and brainwashed killing discipline of the Nazi's. Weather Hitler started early or late killing people (women, children, gypsies, dissidents, Christians, opponents) the point is his killing was on a much more massive scale than these idiots. He didn't hide his rally's, his troops behind masks, or his parades, he killed innocent people in secret yes, nonetheless he killed many more people. You sir cannot defend Hitler in this case!
ISIS can be reckoned with smartly but not with massive campaigns in the typical American WW2/Vietnam tactic. What is this "If we can't see it we won't believe it" warfare? We cannot fall for their antagonizing antic's by sending troops there to eradicate them because we won't. This must be handled smartly and the best way is to know your enemy before you react foolishly. Understand what to do AFTER they are destroyed, where will they go?, what will their children do? Where will they work? How will they live? How do we prevent this from happening again? Like I said before, a hungry man is an angry man.
ISIS can be reckoned with smartly but not with massive campaigns in the typical American WW2/Vietnam tactic. What is this "If we can't see it we won't believe it" warfare? We cannot fall for their antagonizing antic's by sending troops there to eradicate them because we won't. This must be handled smartly and the best way is to know your enemy before you react foolishly. Understand what to do AFTER they are destroyed, where will they go?, what will their children do? Where will they work? How will they live? How do we prevent this from happening again? Like I said before, a hungry man is an angry man.
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I think that would be 3rd battle for Mosul... I think this violates the principle of war - Surprise.
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LTC (Join to see)
If we added all the pieces of information they are showing on a single screen on television about this missing to an offical document it would have to be classified. This, to me, brings to mind Geroldo drawing maps in the sand.
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Sgt. Maj; Possibly you should remember that Lawrence won by getting the Arabs to forsake their differences and all fight on the same side. You might also want to remember that it was the British and the French who sold out the Arabs and parcelled out the Middle East with no regard to anything other than the best interests of the British and the French.
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Sir thank you for the history lesson, I remember that from school. I think maybe my ability to post sarcasm needs some work. The picture portrays the way the Arabs and all other civilized people waged war. Basically meeting on the field of battle with all your pieces clearly visible on the board. The old rank and file so to speak. Make ready! Fire!
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I think it's a political ploy. Who in his right mind would telegraph such an offensive move? I hope I'm wrong but if not, ISIS will have the advantage. What a moronic move!
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PO2 Terri Myre
Just more incompetence being shown by this current administration. Haven't they already done enough damage when it comes to the military? Smh
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
I couldn't help but answer the question (who in his right mind would telegraph such an offensive move?)!!!
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OPSEC or are we trying to pull another D-Day deception plan and hit them elsewhere. I am tired of reading this from open sources and whoever posted this should be investigated for OPSEC violations.
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Like when Geraldo broadcast the location of a SpecOps team. They pulled his @$$ out of there so fast his shadow was still on the ground w/ the team when he touched down in the States.
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Proof that the CIC (as if) is totally out of his gourd when it comes to Military operations.
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SPC Charles Griffith
PO3 Roberts would you mind explaining your vote? It is not required but I would love to hear your reason for it so I may include it in future evaluations of my own position on matters of The POTUS's ability to properly perform his duties. Thanks in advance Thank you for your service and have a great day :)
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Considering i lost count of the number of OPSEC violations they just pulled, I'm gonna chalk this up to political maneuvering/sabre rattling. Or it might be a decoy and they're planning something else. Either way it smells really fishy.
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I wrote a paper in English class years ago on how "TV ready" Desert Storm was with the imbedded reporters/maps of troops movements/et al. I had and still have a problem with the 'immediate gratification' mentality. The willingness to trade our military's safety for the sake of ratings is a stick in my side. Thank you all for your service!!!
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SPC Chris Benamati
In my opinion, if they don't get it from CNN then they're bound to get it from the CIC (yeah whatever) himself in one his endless news conferences. He's "leaked" more sensitive information than Wiki-leaks!!
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You gotta love how the Army talks about how important OPSEC is, yet violates it by allowing this article to come out. You'd think someone would put a stop to it before it went online and everyone started sharing it. It seems like it's only important when it involves is down range, but when it comes to this, they say "screw it" and lets everyone in the world know.
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