Posted on Jun 11, 2016
Do you agree we should save the Air Frames on the newer F-18 SuperHornets and use the still safe and useable S-3 Vikings instead?
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1.The USN has retired the S-3 Viking made famous by President G.W. Bush on the supposed end of hostilities in Iraq back in May, 2003.
2. The S-3 Vikings at DM AFB are still flyable and have airframe time to spare.
3. Why wear the hell out of the F18 Super Hornet as a refueller when we have these planes sitting, just like the A-10 Warthog, ready for service?
4. Aviation experts: we need your feedback!
SGT Damaso V Santana COL M Stock Col (Join to see) PO1 John Miller CPT Pedro Meza] CSM Charles Hayden TSgt Joe C. SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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2. The S-3 Vikings at DM AFB are still flyable and have airframe time to spare.
3. Why wear the hell out of the F18 Super Hornet as a refueller when we have these planes sitting, just like the A-10 Warthog, ready for service?
4. Aviation experts: we need your feedback!
SGT Damaso V Santana COL M Stock Col (Join to see) PO1 John Miller CPT Pedro Meza] CSM Charles Hayden TSgt Joe C. SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
CPO Tim Dickey] CPT Pedro Meza LTC (Join to see) [~802663:SSG Derrick L. Lewis, MBA, DSL, DL
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Because some Congressman has the factory for a replacement in his/her district or the new company is contributing greatly to the Congressman or his/her party
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LTC (Join to see)
I hear the F-35 has subcomponents in all 50 states so it would be harder to say no.
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It's not a question of having airframes with "flight time" available on them in a field in mothballs. It was a great aircraft, but once the supply channel is shut off and the parts are divested from the inventory, the cost to re-implement is prohibitive. Trying to operate an S-3 now would be like trying to find parts to keep your Saab 900 Turbo going. Just not practical, nor cost effective. The reason airframes are retired is because the operational cost (time, energy, maintenance, money) to sustain them outweighs the operational benefit to the warfighter. Moving towards versatile, multi-role platforms saves the U.S. taxpayer BILLIONS while keeping the advancement of technology moving forward. I know this is an unpopular view to have with all the social media experts these days on the subject, but in my professional opinion, it's better for us as a nation to spend billions advancing technology and capabilities vs. spending billions to sustain antiquated equipment and stagnate the forward progress of R&D.
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LTC (Join to see)
CPT Pedro Meza - in my ILE class I discovered it was G.W. Bush that did a presidential decree to approve the F-35 and bypassing the normal procurement process.
Here is a description of the the procurement from the Washington News Service.
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL30563.pdf
Here is a description of the the procurement from the Washington News Service.
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL30563.pdf
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You can't buy anything with the $160 billion invested in the F-35 except for F-35s... It's gone. Killing the program now would only result in no product following a substantial investment.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
My aircraft, F/FB-111 met the same fate. When you get to the point that replacement parts come from a little old lady in tennis shoes from Taiwan hand making the part in a garage it's just no longer practical to keep an aircraft operational. The capability of the aircraft just doesnt top the costs of maintaining it, especially in times of shrinking budgets.
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