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 do you support capital punishment in the military and civilian courts
Do you support capital punishment in the military and civilian courts? Does being in the military mean higher standards and only should be in military courts? Does being in the military mean you should be mitigated down to life sentences and only have capital punishment in the civilian courts? Or no capital punishment overall?
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If the crime fits the parameters of Capital Punishment then it should apply to both military and civilian courts.
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SSG Pete Fleming
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MSgt Curtis Borders, 100% agreement
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Quite simply some people don't deserve to be on this earth with the rest of us. So yes I believe heinous crimes should have capital punishment as an option. I do understand that it costs more to have someone on death row then to have them serve a life sentence. That is a flaw in the system that we should be addressing rather then changing the punishment because of it. Appellate courts also need to find a way to expeditiously handle capital cases to limit the financial burden on society while still offering the due process rights to the prisoner.
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PO1 Disaster Survivor Assistance Specialist
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Sometimes, like the Walker case, we keep them alive because they make a deal to keep their family members from getting the gas chamber/death penalty. But sometimes it's way past time to get rid of them - we spend too much money keeping them alive in prison.
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It costs more to put someone on death row than to keep them in prison for life.
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True - unless the one in prison for life lives to be 90 or more. The costs that the U.S. taxpayer shoulders for the care and housing of prisoners is some of the most expensive in the world. True fact: a federal prisoner - an individual that has been convicted of a felony - has more personal space and amenities provided at no cost to them than what most sailors have onboard ship.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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Lt Col (Join to see) - Not if We expidite the execution, problem is that isn't what is happening instead they get stored in prison for years.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - Again, it's not the housing costs in the prisons that make it more expensive. It's the appeals process. And given how often we still convict innocent people, I'm not real comfortable executing folks the same day they're found guilty.
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SSgt Thomas A Tullis Jr
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Military courts should mirror civilian courts, considering a court marshal is a FELON conviction. Also, Officers should face the same punishments as enlisted instead of being demoted and allowed to retire.
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
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I couldn't agree more with you on this subject, for under the current system. It's not always what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander. Quite frankly a felon is a felon period so why do the laws governing this not pay out equally ?
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SPC David S.
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But we should also add corporal punishment. Getting flogged 30 lashes for running a stop light and I'll never run one again.
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PO1 Disaster Survivor Assistance Specialist
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Dang! 30 lashes for a stop light violation! That's pretty harsh don't you think?
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SPC David S.
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I'm hard headed, so I was thinking what would motivate me to not run a stop sign.
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Works for Singapore.
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SPC David S.
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Yes tread lightly in Singapore.
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1SG David Niles
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First, I support Capital Punishment, and here is my idea of curbing the cost of capital punishment.

The convicted person who has been sentenced to die, gets one appeal, that appeal must be done within five years, the courts will fast pass their docket to ensure it happens. They will look at all the evidence and decide if the death penalty stands, if is does then that person is put to death. The appeal with be with one of the US circuit appellate courts, only if the Circuit appellate court deems necessary will it go to the Supreme Court. If the Death Penalty is upheld, the person will be put to death within thirty days. To further save money, the rope with be the standard, fairly affordable and reusable.
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CPO William E. Mahoney
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We treat our prisoners in some states better then our military, they get 3 square meals, free medical, free cable TV, gyms and in some locations free education.
It is crazy that we treat these criminals so well, if there is no question in their guilt and the crime fits capital punishment then it should be carried out.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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I support capital punishment in both military and civilian courts. Some crimes people commit against others are so outrageous capital isn't enough. It's just most we do to them.
I don't considered life w/o parole a viable alternative for capital crimes, even if so cases it is, less expensive. It's rewarding them with meals and place to sleep for the rest of lives, while the people they killed, tortured, raped, etc. don't to live theirs at all because of them.
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MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
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My only problem with the death penalty is that is isn't used often enough nor quick enough!
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MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
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20 years ago I would agree with you. As a former LEO, I can tell you in today's court systems, it's almost impossible to get a conviction with the death penalty. There are so many loop holes, technicalities, and plea agreements it's almost laughable.

As for executing an innocent person, again, 20 years ago I would agree. Not in today's system of DNA, video, forensics, and Chain of Custody requirements.

That being said... maybe capital punishment has outlived its usefulness. The Model-T was good when it was first invented but not practical for today's society. Capital punishment may have reached the same level.
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Lt Col Instructor Navigator
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I voted no one should have capital punishment. Not because I have any moral issues with executing murderers, but because there is no appreciable deterrent effect on the crime rate, and it actually costs more to put someone on death row than to put them in prison for life.
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I agree. Between the multiple appeals processes and the high cost of prosecuting them, the cost of the execution itself, and the cost of the lawsuits when your new drug combination fails, letting them rot in jail until time takes them is a far more practical solution.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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Capt Jason Williams, what is hear you saying is that its too expensive. If we reversed the costs and made death row the cheaper alternative would you support if the fit the criteria for Capital punishment?
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Well, that would eliminate a large portion of my reluctance. The other half of the equation, however, is that the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent. People are supposed to say "I won't kill that guy, because I don't want to get the chair". But the evidence shows that the death penalty has not proven to be a deterrent. In which case...what benefit does it provide?

Now, perhaps if we shortened the time from conviction to execution, we could solve both problems. If we work out a system where it is cheaper to put someone to death, and we can show a decrease in the capital crime rate as a result? Then I'm all for it.
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SFC Stephen King
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I support Capital Punishment to its fullest. The problem is it takes to long.

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
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