Posted on Mar 20, 2018
Do you think that the various branches should have the same uniforms?
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Coast Guard wore khakis and dungarees for years, but the CG blue uniform showed the public who the real sailors are. Beside if the Army adopted the CG tropical blue uniform, the enemy will laugh their heads off with all the pasty white legs. Topsiders don't last long on rocky terrain. Air Force pilots would have a hard time picking up girls at the O-Club wearing the CG Sears repairman work uniform. Marines will have to start learning pool. CG actually used their pockets.
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I know we are not Canada but Canada put their forces together in 1968 and now it's just called Canadian Forces and they all wear the same uniform they just have a beret that distinguishes the different branches.
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LTC Stephen Conway
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No... I like the uniqueness of us all having our own identity. Let's face it... sometimes just imagining ourselves in a specific uniform is a selling point for some of us.
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Cpl Justin Goolsby I can definitely see your point there. In your case, are you referring to your Marine Blues and Cammies/Utilities or just your Blues?
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Cpl Justin Goolsby
Believe it or not, but it was actually the Cammies that got me. I've got family in other services and I just didn't like the general look of their uniforms. The Blues are great, but you don't get to wear those every day. But you do wear cammies every day and every day I put them on I just felt so good because I thought the uniform looked fantastic.
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Financially it make a lot of sense to have similar uniforms for Conus and similiar when sent overseas. A lot of funds are wasted with uniforms design, manufacturing, changes, etc.
Flipside, It would probably neg influence branch pride and distinction.
Interesting thread.
Flipside, It would probably neg influence branch pride and distinction.
Interesting thread.
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Each branch of the military serve a different purpose. Also with me having a son who's talked about the military since he was 5, different uniforms also help civilians distinguish what branch you're associated with. Say you're standing by a serviceman/woman and your kiddo says can thank that Army soldier for his/her service? Only for that person to hear this and be offended because their actually Marine. And yes the Marines I know get ticked if you say their in the Army. So yes different uniforms for different branches are great.
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Thanks for all the feedback so far! My initial post was edited by mods to better fit community guidelines, but I was referring to operational uniforms being the same camouflage pattern. I definitely feel that all branches should have their distinctive Ceremonial and Dress uniforms to show the heraldry and history behind them, but the constant and meaningless change of operational uniforms and camouflage patterns has become mind-boggling...and for my officer colleagues, expensive as hell. My personal answer was “yes with slight variants.”
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I would say have everyone use OCPs same as the Army and Air Force personnel do, but civilians will still confuse us if we all wear the same uniform.
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Lots of countries do the same uniform but different branch tapes. I was looking at it as a budgetary thing for soldiers and the services themselves.
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MSgt Gerald Orvis
Witness the effects of uniform standardization in the Canadian Armed Forces. I was posted up there shortly after Defence HQ decided that there would no longer be an Army, Navy or Air Force, each with its distinctive uniforms (and distinctive regimental uniforms in the Army), but rather a land branch, a naval branch and an air branch, all in the same uniforms with slightly different badges. So, a naval branch sailor on a sub looked just like a land branch soldier at Camp Petawawa - even down to the rank chevrons. Ironically, this change did not affect the reserve (militia) units, who continued to have their distinctive uniforms. From what I heard from CAF members in Ottawa, this move to standardize uniforms, while very good for the budget bean-counters, was very destructive to morale in the regular forces. I have no doubts that the same would happen here if DoD were to do the same thing. While the plumage has grown far more drab than in previous times, it is important that the services each have their own points of reference, of which distinctive uniforms are one.
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SSG Robert Webster
MSgt Gerald Orvis - Interesting, but surprisingly or not, the US Armed Forces have already passed that point of reference (comparing to Canadian uniforms) when they went to the same basic style of working uniform a number of years ago. Prior to that and for almost 3 decades the sailors for the most part wore dungarees made of a type of denim both light and heavy (shirt and trousers respectively), everyone else - Marine, soldier, and airmen wore working uniforms of the same basic pattern and material, the Marines called them 'utilities,' while everyone else called them 'fatigues.' This would be the OG-107 work uniform that was used from 1952 to 1983 when it started to be phased out to be replaced by the BDU (I think the actual final wear date was 1989, but I am sure that most if not everyone was wearing BDUs by then).
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The Air Force uses the Army OCP in certain locations because it’s the best uniform option available. Different environments require different uniform options.
The solution would be a deployed uniform that all services wear when deployed to specific locations. Otherwise, they should wear whatever the uniform of the day is for that branch.
The solution would be a deployed uniform that all services wear when deployed to specific locations. Otherwise, they should wear whatever the uniform of the day is for that branch.
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For utility uniforms, fine they should be especially with more and more joint service operations. For Navy and Coast Guard however aboard ships a utility uniform proper for sea service duties. One service Uniforms a great big " NO " each should keep their identity. All may be My brothers and sisters but all of us take pride in our individual branches as We should. I don't want to be a Marine, soldier or sailor and more than they would want to be Air Force but the team and pride We have in our branches should NEVER be taken away. The traditions and History of the different branches of service is shown in the service uniforms as well as formal or ceremonial uniforms and that should never be changed and each service should stand out with their own identifiable, distinct uniform.
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Absolutely NO.
Each service should have thier own uniform.
The Air Force should get rid of its current BDU's. This is just my opinion. I ALWAYS loved the comoflaged BDU'S with polished boots.
I also don't like the new top 3 cheverons. The old was the best.
Dont often comment. Just an old Airman.
Each service should have thier own uniform.
The Air Force should get rid of its current BDU's. This is just my opinion. I ALWAYS loved the comoflaged BDU'S with polished boots.
I also don't like the new top 3 cheverons. The old was the best.
Dont often comment. Just an old Airman.
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The various branches have different missions and even different standards. The only time their uniforms should look similar is if they are on the same mission such as a joint task Force.
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Think about the cost savings to the taxpayers. Right now each branch does it's own r+d on uniforms, this could be consolidated in to one combined group. I could go on but I think y'all get the point.
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BDUs should be the same which would result in fewer friendly fire problems as was proven in WWII and I think all branches should have a “Sam Browne” style uniform in their own colors, but dress uniforms should be unique to the branch. Maybe even do like most of Europe and have “Regimental Dress” uniforms.
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A favorite subject of mine. ARMY and AIR FORCE should have the same style uniforms. And soon will have. The NAVY, MARINES and COAST GUARD need to use the MARINES style of uniform. But with different head gear. These uniforms are for in the field only. Dress uniforms should and must be different for ceremonies and parades, so the civilians can tell who is who.
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