Posted on Jan 21, 2015
Does it bother you to hear "Thank you for your service!"?
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All active duty stand down(but don't walk away, this will effect you later) Veterans does it ever bother you to hear that? "Thank you for your service" I apologize but it mmmm...bugs me something awful, telling me " your done go sit down and grow feeble " needs changed to something that endures like we do something like "YO JOE!" or another saying meaning get outta my way theres work to do and I ain't done yet! Forgive if I wasted your time, just wondering.
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When this fad first started it seemed genuine to me, now it is a boor. I think it is a little too little and a lot too late. Any more when I get that greeting from and adult my usual response is, "thank you, did you serve too?" They usually get it, 'nuff said. Where were all these people when I got home after 27 straight months picking rice out of my teeth? Sure could have used a little support then. I got home 1 Dec 1970 and landed at San Francisco International. You could just imagine the greetings that were handed out!
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SGT James Colwell
I appreciate your service, and I am aware of the kind of greetings you and those who served with you got from an ungrateful nation. That was 47 years ago. Times have changed and for the most part, veterans are getting better responses from civilians, and rightfully so. You deserved better and didn't get it. I get why it is too little, but I would argue that sincere gratitude expressed for service to your country is never too late. I personally served between wars and I have been treated to varying degrees in both ways. Most people who thank you for your service are doing so out of a skewed understanding of what service members really experience. During the Vietnam era, people were led astray by over-inflated stories of what happened in SE Asia, and assumed that all SM's were evil. SM's of my era (80's) were guilty by association. Post 911 SM's are reaping the benefits of the anger people have towards the people we are currently engaging. After 15 years, that is beginning to wear thin, but the attitude towards SM's and vets is still favorable. Part of that is because of what you and other Vietnam vets endured. People may take a while to understand, but I believe more and more are now understanding the sacrifice vets have made, regardless of the era.
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Why would it bother Me ? That is not the reception We got when We returned from Viet Nam, this is 100% better ! Quite an improvement from 50 years ago on return to the US in Military Police duties having to deal with Anti-war demonstrators. I usually will respond by saying thank You for thanking Me. In My opinion if someone is going to express that appreciation don't respond in a negative way, that is so wrong !
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The following says it as well or better than I could myself...
"Tim O’Brien, a Vietnam vet and the author of the acclaimed book “The Things They Carried,” told me that his war’s vets who believed in the mission like to be thanked. Others, himself included, find that “something in the stomach tumbles” from expressions of appreciation that are so disconnected from the “evil, nasty stuff you do in war.”
The more so, he said, “when your war turns out to have feet of clay” — whether fighting peasants in Vietnam or in the name of eradicating weapons of mass destruction that never materialized.
But doesn’t their sacrifice merit thanks? “Patriotic gloss,” responded Mr. O’Brien, an unofficial poet laureate of war who essentially elevates the issue to the philosophical; to him, we’re thanking without having the courage to ask whether the mission is even right."
NYT SundayReview | NEWS ANALYSIS
"Please Don’t Thank Me for My Service"
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/sunday-review/please-dont-thank-me-for-my-service.html
"Tim O’Brien, a Vietnam vet and the author of the acclaimed book “The Things They Carried,” told me that his war’s vets who believed in the mission like to be thanked. Others, himself included, find that “something in the stomach tumbles” from expressions of appreciation that are so disconnected from the “evil, nasty stuff you do in war.”
The more so, he said, “when your war turns out to have feet of clay” — whether fighting peasants in Vietnam or in the name of eradicating weapons of mass destruction that never materialized.
But doesn’t their sacrifice merit thanks? “Patriotic gloss,” responded Mr. O’Brien, an unofficial poet laureate of war who essentially elevates the issue to the philosophical; to him, we’re thanking without having the courage to ask whether the mission is even right."
NYT SundayReview | NEWS ANALYSIS
"Please Don’t Thank Me for My Service"
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/sunday-review/please-dont-thank-me-for-my-service.html
Please Don’t Thank Me for My Service
Some veterans wince at reflexive gratitude.
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I am somewhat ambivalent. On the one hand it is good to be recognized (and like others have said, I take it as a thank you to all of US). In the middle, it seems to have become a bit "automatic" and trite. When some 18-year old clerks says it ... well it just doesn't mean as much as when some older cashier looks me in the eye and says it. On the down side, there is still a part of me that wonders where these folks were in 1970 when I came back from Vietnam, was told to travel in civilian clothes (like the haircut wasn't a dead giveaway), and ultimately called "baby killer" in what was supposedly a professional setting. Simply put, for me (and I think a lot of RVN vets) it's a "mixed bag."
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I find it awkward personally. Mainly because I work with a lot of disabled and wounded combat veterans. Don't thank me for my service, go to a VA Hospital and thank the men that lost their legs or their eye sight. Thank the mothers of the deceased that gave their life for this country. I spent 8 months in Iraq and I was a welder. Wtf did I do, 4 years and out.
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After the way We were treated when we came ,cursed, spit on, and reviled. I just want to ask where were you 30 years ago. All of a sudden we are different than we were before?
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SFC Anthony Iocca
MAJ (Join to see) - The LBGTQRSTWXYZ subject is most disturbing, decent people do not want to dwell on the subject of these sexual predators. That silent attitude is responsible for the growth of sexual perversion. This all goes back to political policies to stay out of bedrooms. What is preached at the Synagogues of Satan is "what goes on behind closed doors is not anyone else's business."
Homosexuals have been leveraging the Law ever since 1973 when they where release from the insane asylums. Today homosexuals are free to practice their sexual predatory activities and get paid to do it. Married Homosexual couples have adopted children the Law does not prohibit it, as long as they can financially support the child, the State supplies them with Children. They are picking a choosing their victims.
Staunch homosexuals have made false statements that they entered the world from birth as homosexuals. They repudiate that somewhere in their lives they fell victim to homosexual molestation. The LGBTQ is a organized sexual predator group that ruthlessly exploits others. Every homosexual is either a victim, perpetrator or both.
J Edgar Hoover warned America about the corruption that is associated with homosexuals. God condemns them in the Bible as an "Abomination" and also refers to them as "Reprobate" a sinner who is NOT of the elect and is predestined to damnation. That means they will go directly to Hell.
How many homosexual agents do the FBI and CIA gamely employ?
Since the Obama Administration took control, the FBI and CIA, have fully embraced the homosexual and transgender movements, and appear to be poised to crack down on citizens like myself who are critical of their crimes against nature. Employing homosexuals to look the other way from the crimes they are guilty as sin of, while enforcing what they call "Gay Rights" does not make anyone's child safer, in fact it puts them all at a much higher risk.
Homosexuals have even been granted full access to young men and women in the Military. On December 22, 2010 President Obama signed the 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Repeal Act of 2010. President Obama’s signature condones disgusting, unethical, immoral acts of homosexuality with-in military Life. Members of our Armed Forces are entrusted with the weaponry very capable of mass destruction. President Obama and the Democrat Party condoned their trust with Homosexual’s to be the guardians of such weaponry. That decision reflects a serous lack of sound judgment.
Homosexuals have been leveraging the Law ever since 1973 when they where release from the insane asylums. Today homosexuals are free to practice their sexual predatory activities and get paid to do it. Married Homosexual couples have adopted children the Law does not prohibit it, as long as they can financially support the child, the State supplies them with Children. They are picking a choosing their victims.
Staunch homosexuals have made false statements that they entered the world from birth as homosexuals. They repudiate that somewhere in their lives they fell victim to homosexual molestation. The LGBTQ is a organized sexual predator group that ruthlessly exploits others. Every homosexual is either a victim, perpetrator or both.
J Edgar Hoover warned America about the corruption that is associated with homosexuals. God condemns them in the Bible as an "Abomination" and also refers to them as "Reprobate" a sinner who is NOT of the elect and is predestined to damnation. That means they will go directly to Hell.
How many homosexual agents do the FBI and CIA gamely employ?
Since the Obama Administration took control, the FBI and CIA, have fully embraced the homosexual and transgender movements, and appear to be poised to crack down on citizens like myself who are critical of their crimes against nature. Employing homosexuals to look the other way from the crimes they are guilty as sin of, while enforcing what they call "Gay Rights" does not make anyone's child safer, in fact it puts them all at a much higher risk.
Homosexuals have even been granted full access to young men and women in the Military. On December 22, 2010 President Obama signed the 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Repeal Act of 2010. President Obama’s signature condones disgusting, unethical, immoral acts of homosexuality with-in military Life. Members of our Armed Forces are entrusted with the weaponry very capable of mass destruction. President Obama and the Democrat Party condoned their trust with Homosexual’s to be the guardians of such weaponry. That decision reflects a serous lack of sound judgment.
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SFC Anthony Iocca - I fully expect sinners and reprobates to sin and keep sinning until the Lord of Hosts convicts them of their unbelief. But those who want to bring down the wrath of society and the government and society on those of us who refuse to enable and adulate them for it--- or those (and it ISN'T every last one of 'em, just far too many) who would forcefully or deceptively "recruit" children into their ranks--- have no place in positions of any power whatever. It might vary, case-by-case, but I wouldn't put some of 'em in as bar bouncers.
I'm not disagreeing with your general bent, there, but when the U. S. Military, and its government and societal arbiters, rejected God's law as the moral basis for its authority, it had no more basis whatever from which to actually reject immoralities that did not cause both immediate and irrefutable harm to their own ends or agendae. So it was only a matter of time before such things came in. And when GLT eunuchs, voluntarily and medically disabled from the biological drive to fight and win are the ones we call upon to fight and win, the truth will be suppressed (unrighteously) about their failure, and for all the rest of us hear, it will merely have been fallen sisters-in-arms, not delusionally self-mutilated brothers-in-arms whose mental issues, enabled by the bureaucracy the issues empowered, incapacitated them from actual combat. But I'd better not find out about it on my watch!
I'm not disagreeing with your general bent, there, but when the U. S. Military, and its government and societal arbiters, rejected God's law as the moral basis for its authority, it had no more basis whatever from which to actually reject immoralities that did not cause both immediate and irrefutable harm to their own ends or agendae. So it was only a matter of time before such things came in. And when GLT eunuchs, voluntarily and medically disabled from the biological drive to fight and win are the ones we call upon to fight and win, the truth will be suppressed (unrighteously) about their failure, and for all the rest of us hear, it will merely have been fallen sisters-in-arms, not delusionally self-mutilated brothers-in-arms whose mental issues, enabled by the bureaucracy the issues empowered, incapacitated them from actual combat. But I'd better not find out about it on my watch!
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SFC Anthony Iocca
MAJ (Join to see) - The Obama administration has been the most perverted administration in American history. Obama's legacy is the advancement of perversions, the list of his destructive accomplishments are seriously disturbing. Infiltration of the Military was not the only defeat America has suffered, the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts have also become available as dens of deplorable sin. Obama and his administration has set America up for FAILURE.
As for the transgenders and the Doctors that assist with gender reassignments. They are advertising successful transformations, this is false advertisement. I do not recognize any "transgender" as being a successful transformation. Not one transgender male has ever been successfully transformed onto a woman. Not one can give birth or even breast feed a baby.
The fictional story of Frankenstein's monster always comes to my mind in association with the transgenders. Dr. Frankenstein's life work was aimed to impress the scientific community of the period. With the expectations of garnering respect and admiration on that stormy night when he cried out "it's alive".
Non-fiction the last 30 years or more and today is Dr. Freakenstein with the same goal to pique the interest in his community of like minded anti-social psychopaths that lack conscience and the sense of right and wrong. These "Mad" Doctors offer a service that is quite disturbing to a reasonable person of sound mind.
Psychiatric practices and treatments have a history of critical questioning. I am expressing disapproval of the practice of gender manipulation or amalgamation as; Treatments, Experimental Practices, and as forms of Art or Entertainment. I ascertained these apposing judgments with merit, involving an empirical analysis.
As for the transgenders and the Doctors that assist with gender reassignments. They are advertising successful transformations, this is false advertisement. I do not recognize any "transgender" as being a successful transformation. Not one transgender male has ever been successfully transformed onto a woman. Not one can give birth or even breast feed a baby.
The fictional story of Frankenstein's monster always comes to my mind in association with the transgenders. Dr. Frankenstein's life work was aimed to impress the scientific community of the period. With the expectations of garnering respect and admiration on that stormy night when he cried out "it's alive".
Non-fiction the last 30 years or more and today is Dr. Freakenstein with the same goal to pique the interest in his community of like minded anti-social psychopaths that lack conscience and the sense of right and wrong. These "Mad" Doctors offer a service that is quite disturbing to a reasonable person of sound mind.
Psychiatric practices and treatments have a history of critical questioning. I am expressing disapproval of the practice of gender manipulation or amalgamation as; Treatments, Experimental Practices, and as forms of Art or Entertainment. I ascertained these apposing judgments with merit, involving an empirical analysis.
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SFC Anthony Iocca - Breathe, there, Sergeant! Steady. Chin up. God's still on the throne.
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