Posted on Feb 9, 2015
TSgt Joshua Copeland
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As seen on FaceBook:

"If my kid can't bring peanut butter to school, you cant bring your unvaccinated kid to school."

Aaaaand go!

Really look forward to MAJ (Join to see)'s thoughts based on his background.
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this whole measles outbreak "they" want to blame it on antivaxxers when this disease and others had been elimated here. but "they" dont want us to blame the foreign invaders that "they" where schlepping all across the US this summer, measles and tb are prevalent where these foreign invaders come from...but lets blame the antivaxxers
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SGT Richard H.
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This must vary from state to state. You have to show proof of vaccinations (all the standard ones, anyway) to even register your child in Texas.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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SGT Richard H., if you take a look at the link I provided else where in the thread you will find that Texas allows for both religious and philosophical exemptions.
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SGT Richard H.
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I hadn't heard that...I just know from experience that you the schools require it for registration, but then I've never tried to get around it, so it's not surprising that I wasn't aware.
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
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I have a great idea. How about some people just stay home so they're never offended or harmed.
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SGT Francis Wright
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Vaccinations are not an issue of choice, it is a public health issue. Get your kids vaccinated. Period.
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Just a bit off topic, how would you feel when your kid got lice?
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On the other hand, as far as I know there isn't a simple, one-time injection that will prevent lice. And lice is a nuisance, but not life threatening.
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True. But as far as I know; nobody wants to get lice from somebody else...
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CSM Charles Hayden
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SFC Wilson Fung, Better than if someone else in the family had an infestation of _________.
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Sgt Jennifer Mohler
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Depends on the context. It has happened and when it was because the other parent was a total douchenugget and wouldn't take care of their own kids I was livid.
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SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA
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Ok I will play devils advocate for the sake of a good discussion:
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/how-vaccinated-kids-infect-non-vaccinated
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Col Joseph Lenertz
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Yes, any live-virus vaccine can infect or transfer to a non-vaccinated person. It is live. When you get a live vaccine, you are warned about these dangers and shown how to keep the site properly covered, how to dispose of bandages, avoid contact with unvaccinated people, & etc. This article is unsurprising and to me represents no argument against vaccinating your children.
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SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA
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Col Joseph Lenertz
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I don't know enough about the efficacy of different versions of vaccine. It might have been that the 2012 Merk MMR II was bad, or it might be that this article was released before all the facts were in, and that's why the article has no actual numbers. I would have like to see a more reliable source that doesn't have a stated agenda (in this case, autism awareness).
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SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA
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Makes sense, point taken @Col Joseph Lenertz - that will be very difficult since the agenda of the Vaccines is to vaccinate, and they have all the marketing money and the power to shut Doctors down...and have.
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From what I understand, the vaccines we took in the 60's and 70's are still mandatory. I find it ironic that we have an outbreak of things like the measles as administration leaves the border wide open to anybody from countries that do not mandate vaccinations.

Has everyone forgotten the illegal aliens entering the country en masse are being allowed into schools without having been vetted properly or immunized for that matter? If the virus came from another country that does not have the vaccine, I'd bet it's genetic markers are a little different than our vaccinated children.

It wouldn't surprise me that the media is openly blaming the anti-vaccination crowd instead of accepting their responsibility in pushing for illegal amnesty.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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SPC Charles Griffith, turn to your states and have them repeal the philosophical exemptions. This really isn't a federal issue since these are state laws not federal laws.
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SPC Charles Griffith
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OR I can take responsibility for me and mine and just allow others to do the same???
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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You asked question.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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Most of our Neighbors to the South have a Higher Vaccination Rate than we do in this Country.
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I am just kind of glad I am so old that I am safe from polio and the bubonic plague.
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Not a lot of people are old enogh to remember, but when Dr Salk first mass-produced the polio vaccine, a large number of patients contracted the disease from the vaccine itself. No FDA back in the day. Eventually Dr Salk got it right and helped millions of people worldwide avoid this crippling disease.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Not an anti-vaxxer. Absolutely not an anti-vaxxer.

But does anyone think that the government should be able to mandate vaccines as a blanket policy? Not just as "If you want to attend public schools, but YOU MUST get X Vaccine as a Citizen" policy.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS, there is a study that shows they are safer on a bus not wearing a seatbelt due to the physics of a bus crash compared to a car crash.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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TSgt Joshua Copeland I was just using that to highlight the argument at hand. Like for like. "Same thing." In a school bus, a seat belt isn't going to provide adequate protection, and will actually provide additional risk in many ways.

Comparing seat belts to vaccines is an apples to oranges argument.
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SPC Charles Griffith
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I can get behind the protect the kids as far as seatbelts go but with adults it's only about the revenue.
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Col Joseph Lenertz
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Yes, mandatory. Policy driven and written by an independent panel of Doctors with immunologic specialty certification, not funded by the government or the pharmaceuticals. There are docs who would do it on a volunteer basis, just to remain above reproach. No adds or edits by Congress, just an up-down vote.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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I am trying to figure out how I would have survived childhood without shots or PB&J...heck who am I kidding, I still eat PB&J for lunch every once and a while.
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