Have any of you Marines seen anyone drummed out of the Corps??

Drumming out is the historical act of being dishonorably dismissed from military service to the sound of a drum. It may refer to any act of expulsion or dismissal in disgrace

Should the U.S. military bring back the Drumming Out Ceremony for those who have disgraced their buddies, unit, service and country and have been court martialed and given a dishonorable or bad conduct discharge ?

Not the USMC, and not Drummed out, but equally humiliating for the dirtbag.

1987 - Chile Air Force Academy.

A 2nd year Cadet stole a calculator from another Cadet, was found and quickly tried and found guilty.

The entire Academy held formation in the Receiving yard, which is by the Main Gate. Box formation around the disgraced cadet and the Director of the Academy.

The Director reads the charges as well as the verdict, following this the entire formation recites the Code of Honor. Then each Class Cadet Major (6) take turns ripping the patches, badges, name tag, epaulets, academy insignia and finally his wings off his uniform.

Then the lowest ranking cadet took charge of the formation, ordered an about face and marched us off, leaving the disgraced cadet alone in the yard, steps away from the gate.

His family waiting to pick him up, their faces could not hide the shame.

I witnessed a ceremony of sorts a long time ago when a Soldier was found guilty at a Court Martial and was transported from the Court Room to the Confinement Facility and before he was let in the building, his dress uniform was stripped off of him in front of everyone by the Confinement Facility personnel. Rank, ribbons, name tag, unit patch(s), just ripped off and thrown to the ground. But like someone else said...today, that would not happen...you could really hurt someone's feelings that way (Bit of Sarcasm) by doing that. This where the disgraced need to be made an example of for others to see and take heed.

Half nickel of the day.

Sgt Tom Cunnally Oh come on, Sarge. In today's PC world? No chance. Everyone in that CoC up to the Commandant would be relieved. Can't go around hurting anyone's feelings.

Sometimes the old ways are the best ways.
Nothing like seeing the absolute shame and disgrace in front of your brothers to make a guy think twice before turning to jackassery.

Does not happen anymore Sgt Tom Cunnally

I remember in the "older" days with NJP the Solders ART15 was posted in the common areas with the SSN taken out as a way to show others what happens when you screwed up. It was an event that no one really looked forward to, but everyone knew when one was posted. In the PC world of today, it wouldn't happen, and it would be posted all over the net taking away the "learning experience" and making it more of a "joke". Could something like this drumming out come back? I doubt it (sounds good), but Punishment is made in private, yet Praise is made in public. And if someone was to get a dishonorable out of it, I'm not even sure if the Soldier would even be part of the unit vs. looking at bars while inside of them. Maybe someone with more experience could correct me if I'm wrong?

As other have said, I don't believe this happens in the Active Duty military anymore, but I do have experience with a similar tradition while at VMI.

Virginia Military Institute is a state run military school that operates much like the National Service Academies. We are very similar to West Point. We also have a very strict Honor Code: "A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal nor tolerate those who do."

Whenever a cadet is found guilty of violating the honor code, they are "drummed out" of the Corps of Cadets. Now the cadet is already gone when this occurs, but the ceremony is essentially this:
- All cadets live in barracks. It is four floors with three sections and open courtyards in the center of each section. Old Barracks is the largest section with the largest court yard.
- During the night, the Honor Court (Senior and Junior class cadets) assemble along with some of the drummers from Band Company in the old courtyard.
- The entire Corps is woken up (normally between the hours of 0100-0300) by the drummers beginning to drum in the courtyard. (rolling snares for several seconds followed by a thunderous bass drum beat - repeated until all Corps members are awake)
- The entire Corps is required to wake up and get out of their rooms to assemble along the railings on each floor facing the Old Barrack's courtyard. (freshmen are woken up by the Honor Court members and their Cadre by having their doors kicked in)
- After the Corps is assembled, the drummers stop and the Honor Court marches to the center of the courtyard.
- The Honor Court president loudly proclaims that "Cadet X has been found guilty of violating the honor code! As such, his name will no longer be mentioned in barracks after today!"
- The Corps turns their back on the courtyard (that is symbolic of course) and returns to their rooms to go back to sleep.

I can assure you that the first time you witness this as a freshman cadet it'll send shivers down your spine and instills the disciple required to ensure you do not violate the VMI Honor Code.

I can tell you who the first one was. An Army Officer (Lt.) for sodomy (Gay) durning the Revolutionary war.

I did see 2 drummed out in summer of 1965 in front of 3rd bn 8th Marines mess hall. After reading charges while a solo drummer slow drummed they were stripped of all insignia and Battalion did about face. They were put in one of those small MP Patty wagons and taken to front gate and thrown out. I heard Jville police arrested them for being vagrents. Semper Fi