Posted on Aug 9, 2021
I am a tanker who’s unit doesn't currently have tanks.So my unit is encouraging me to attend a school. What schools should I consider?
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I have looked into Airborne, Ranger, etc. what else could I fill a packet out for?
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You can't go to Airborne School, you're not in an Airborne unit and your MOS generally isn't Airborne anymore.
Dont go to Ranger School, you'll get dropped because you have no clue what you're doing and your unit probably doesn't have a decent Pre-Ranger program for people like you.
Don't go to Sapper school, again, you have no idea what you're doing and your unit lacks an adequate trainup.
Air Assault school is a good base level, introductory school that has several locations, isn't hard to get, and they will teach you everything you need to know upon arrival.
Bus driver, fork lift operator, UPL, Field sanitation are all valuable skills that will be worth promotion points when you're trying to become a SGT/SSG and will make you an asset to the unit.
Most importantly, if you have time, start your college education
Dont go to Ranger School, you'll get dropped because you have no clue what you're doing and your unit probably doesn't have a decent Pre-Ranger program for people like you.
Don't go to Sapper school, again, you have no idea what you're doing and your unit lacks an adequate trainup.
Air Assault school is a good base level, introductory school that has several locations, isn't hard to get, and they will teach you everything you need to know upon arrival.
Bus driver, fork lift operator, UPL, Field sanitation are all valuable skills that will be worth promotion points when you're trying to become a SGT/SSG and will make you an asset to the unit.
Most importantly, if you have time, start your college education
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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I Lied To Enlist In The USAF ~ In Those Years A 10th Grade Education Was Required ~~ But I'm A MID- 9th GRADE DROP OUT ~ See My Bio ~ I Owe ALL Of My Successes To The United States Armed Services Institute (U.S.A.F.I.) Totally FREE Programs, And I Took ALL I Could Get... THANK YOU , USAF ~ Enlisted On My 17th Birthday~ 06/29/1961~ Received My DD-214 On ~ 06/10/65 ~ When I Returned From Osan AFB, South Korea...
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MSG Michael McEleney
If you are a tanker in a tankless unit-change MOS. What is your unit’s mission? Sounds like you’re ina Reserve or Guard unit.
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SGT Rudy Gibson
So, there is a unit I assuming at least company level full of 19Ks and somehow there isn't one tank? Sounds pretty thin to me.
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Okay Young Tanker, here is a story for ya… Summer of 93 my CO end up pinning another ARCOM on me for excelling at something and says something to the effect, “Sergeant Mac we have given you a couple ARCOM’s, a couple of AAM’s, the CG award and we got nothin else… do you want to go to college?” I told him I would, but I’m not eligible to reenlist for a few more years (at the time to go to college was an reenlistment incentive)… and he cut me off, sayin “I didn’t say anything about reenlisting, I said do you want to go to college!” When I said yes sir, he then told me I needed to get enrolled ASAP.
Well my TC, PLT SGT and all the way up my chain, figured I would head over to the education center and sign up for an 8-week semester with Central Texas College, right on Ft. Riley. When I showed up a week later showing that I was enrolled for 16 credit hours at Kansas State University in Manhattan, KS, I’m pretty sure the common phrase was “oh you sneaky little bastard”. Granted, I did have to kiss the backside of the Dean of Admissions just to get in, but 13-weeks later I finished up with a 3.8 GPA and made the Deans list.
The following year I got stationed in Korea for a year and knocked out another 86 hours via Saturday classes at Camp Casey and correspondence courses. All of this didn’t make me a better tanker, but it did set me up for future endeavors and made me really good when it came to playing trivia crack.
Well my TC, PLT SGT and all the way up my chain, figured I would head over to the education center and sign up for an 8-week semester with Central Texas College, right on Ft. Riley. When I showed up a week later showing that I was enrolled for 16 credit hours at Kansas State University in Manhattan, KS, I’m pretty sure the common phrase was “oh you sneaky little bastard”. Granted, I did have to kiss the backside of the Dean of Admissions just to get in, but 13-weeks later I finished up with a 3.8 GPA and made the Deans list.
The following year I got stationed in Korea for a year and knocked out another 86 hours via Saturday classes at Camp Casey and correspondence courses. All of this didn’t make me a better tanker, but it did set me up for future endeavors and made me really good when it came to playing trivia crack.
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CMDCM Rodney Bell
Well done...It's rewarding and refreshing when your command recognizes your potential as a diamond in the rough. That's an example of superior leadership for investment in the future of the Army and your family. I ask that you pay it forward. From a Navy Seabee our Motto: With an able mind and willing hands, the difficult we do at once the impossible takes a bit longer. Go get some...
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1SG Bernhard Mattulat
Worked with an E-6(P) who finished off his Masters while cooling his heals in an "under utilized" position. Last I heard he was a CSM. If you've got to many apples, make apple sauce!
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SPC Michael Budzinski
Central Texas College was on all bases and where got my degree. The counselor gave CLEP tests, OJT credits and credit for my MOS training getting an engineering degree.
Kind of sounds narcissistic saying I won every award and nothing else and just can’t keep pinning ARCOMS. What usually happens is they offer Warrant Officer School or pushing school for OCS.
Most battalions, especially combat, don’t allow you the time to go to the Education Counselor never mind school. Deployment, down range and training makes very difficult. Best to apply to every school allowed or required for promotions if going to make a career.
When I served getting awards was difficult and didn’t just keep pinning them on. I excelled being “the best I could be” having 2 MOS’s, winning the Division Maintenance Award and meeting the IG. Received 1 ARCOM, an AAM and of course my degree thanks to a counselor who actually cared.
My problem was young, loved partying and women. Which I paid for dearly. Luckily knowledge and work ethic made a lot of friends. One was the Brigade Commander who gave me my AAM.
Kind of sounds narcissistic saying I won every award and nothing else and just can’t keep pinning ARCOMS. What usually happens is they offer Warrant Officer School or pushing school for OCS.
Most battalions, especially combat, don’t allow you the time to go to the Education Counselor never mind school. Deployment, down range and training makes very difficult. Best to apply to every school allowed or required for promotions if going to make a career.
When I served getting awards was difficult and didn’t just keep pinning them on. I excelled being “the best I could be” having 2 MOS’s, winning the Division Maintenance Award and meeting the IG. Received 1 ARCOM, an AAM and of course my degree thanks to a counselor who actually cared.
My problem was young, loved partying and women. Which I paid for dearly. Luckily knowledge and work ethic made a lot of friends. One was the Brigade Commander who gave me my AAM.
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I've been stationed at Bliss in 1st AD, land of tankers. I've seen one 19K with jump wings. We're good friends but I think he managed his slot in his contract. Unless you plan on a reclass, you won't be much use to the airborne community as a 19K, from an objective standpoint. SFC (Join to see) made excellent points so I won't reinvent the wheel. I will say though, in addition to the schools he mentioned, if you can swing a HAZMAT course take it.
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SSG (Join to see)
Man…. This is rough. Very poorly thought out. All those schools are doable for him
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SFC Robert Falco
I would say try to knock out your basic college courses while the army will pay for it without touching your GI bill. If your not college inclined, look at taking some trades courses such as electrical, plumbing, HVAC, etc. Might not do you much good now but will be gold when you get out. Some other ideas for fields with growing demand are Pro Drone pilots (UAS), almost anything AI related, etc.
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SFC Robert Falco
SFC Robert Falco - Just noticed this question is almost 4 years old... but the advice in the answers are relevant to all young soldiers out there. Use your military experience and opportunities for future success.
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I haven’t read all the comments, but if you’re thinking that you’re not staying 20, or even if you are …. think of something that’ll give you a career when you get out. Some of us never planned to stay 20, while others planned to and didn’t for one reason or another…either way, set yourself up for success.
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I don’t see much in your profile to help us, so my advice is general in nature. First take a little time to consider what you want to be doing in 5 to 10 years. Pick schools that will support those goals. Don’t discount skilled trades as a future employment in or out of the Service. If you’re a hands on kind of person, ask for diesel mechanic school, jet engine mechanic school, aircraft maintenance school. If you like building stuff ask for engineer school (combat or Corps of Engineers).
Another thought. What schools are located at or near your current post. If one seems like something you’d like, ask for it. The decreased cost (no TDY) will make it easier for your command to say yes.
Another thought. What schools are located at or near your current post. If one seems like something you’d like, ask for it. The decreased cost (no TDY) will make it easier for your command to say yes.
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SGT (Join to see)
Jet engine/aircraft maintenance/helicopter maintenance will be great schools for both military and civilian. Think long term. Will the school be a valuable and marketable school after your military obligations are over. Take the offer and run with it.
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College credit counts for promo points E-4 to E-5 and later. Go to a nearby college or Vo-Tec school. Learn something useful, like computers, electronics, welding, engineering, nursing/emergency medicine etc, and college chicks 101 ain't bad either. And it gets you off post.
Often they will pay for it, and/or you can use parts of your GI BIll. Usually the Army will pay for it while you're in. Not sure how thing have changed since I was in ,but look into it.
Often they will pay for it, and/or you can use parts of your GI BIll. Usually the Army will pay for it while you're in. Not sure how thing have changed since I was in ,but look into it.
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Well, I've read a couple comments here and they are solid. As a tanker, your battalion won't waste money to send you to airborne or Ranger school. In the early days, major Army installations had their own Air Assault schools, it was easier to then. But in all honesty, still not sure they'll spend the money to send you.
For advancement in Armor, you need to be sucking up as much civilian education as you can right now. You need to stay ahead of the game to be competitive against those support and admin MOS's who don't go to the field. Study for the Excellence in Armor program and take the test. Work on doing soldier of the month boards, then quarter working up to Post boards. And of course your job as a tanker. You want to fast track as much as you can. When you make SGT/E-5, push for Audie Murphy. That there if your accepted will put a huge check mark to your name.
I've been retired now for almost 10 yrs so a lot has changed. I'm not even sure how correspondence courses work now in making promotion points. Promotion points system changed about 5 times while I was in. Good luck young Padawan.
OH!!! Go searching for a metal oil can spout. It's save you lots of pain when adding oils to your beast. Also buy your own vampire. They aren't expensive.
For advancement in Armor, you need to be sucking up as much civilian education as you can right now. You need to stay ahead of the game to be competitive against those support and admin MOS's who don't go to the field. Study for the Excellence in Armor program and take the test. Work on doing soldier of the month boards, then quarter working up to Post boards. And of course your job as a tanker. You want to fast track as much as you can. When you make SGT/E-5, push for Audie Murphy. That there if your accepted will put a huge check mark to your name.
I've been retired now for almost 10 yrs so a lot has changed. I'm not even sure how correspondence courses work now in making promotion points. Promotion points system changed about 5 times while I was in. Good luck young Padawan.
OH!!! Go searching for a metal oil can spout. It's save you lots of pain when adding oils to your beast. Also buy your own vampire. They aren't expensive.
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SFC William Linnell
Another thing could be of interest for you. Unless of course you already did it. I would suggest NOT buying a car until you get close to ETS. Stay out of the bars. Take night school as much as you can. Bank as much money as you can. Buy the essentials only. Use your clothing allowance to get new uniforms, boots what have you.
Since I don't know your short term or long term goals, set yourself up for the long term money wise. Especially if you plan to use the GI Bill and or your college fund. You will still get enough money to pay tuition and money left over. I had a Soldier that did pretty much what I tell you here. He did his 4 yrs and ETSd. He had banked over $35K.
Good luck with everything. It'll take discipline to make this work.
Since I don't know your short term or long term goals, set yourself up for the long term money wise. Especially if you plan to use the GI Bill and or your college fund. You will still get enough money to pay tuition and money left over. I had a Soldier that did pretty much what I tell you here. He did his 4 yrs and ETSd. He had banked over $35K.
Good luck with everything. It'll take discipline to make this work.
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I personally would never discourage a young soldier from going to Ranger School, no matter what their MOS is. Yes there will be a learning curve, but there is nothing a Ranger Handbook, tenacity, and finding the resources you need to teach you what you don't know before you attend can't handle. Thier is a myriad of "prep courses" available online you can follow to ensure you are in the physical shape you need to be in to be successful. Grit, determination, and a never quit under any circumstance mindset isn't taught. You either have it, or you don't.
Ranger School is a leadership school that uses patrolling and battle drills as its teaching methodology, and sleep deprivation, time constraints, and minimal food rations is used to amplify the stress. It's open to ALL MOS's and has been successfuly passed by many in your same position. Earning your Tab will get you promoted ahead of your peers throughout your career.
Telling someone they'd fail because of XYZ is not advice I'd give to any young soldier. Instead, I'd advise them of what it entails, guide them to the resources that will aid to their success, teach, coach and mentor them.
Good leadership encourages soldiers to push pass their perceived boundaries, and set them up for a successful career. Weak leadership tells others they can't do it or won't make it, based on thier own personal perceived limitations.
If I woukd have listened to leadership who said I wouldn't make it, I wouldn't have went to SF selection(SFAS). Instead, I proved them wrong and spent my last 15 years in 3rd SFG(A) as an 18E.
Dont ever let anybody ever tell you that you can't achieve your goals.
YMMV
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Ranger School is a leadership school that uses patrolling and battle drills as its teaching methodology, and sleep deprivation, time constraints, and minimal food rations is used to amplify the stress. It's open to ALL MOS's and has been successfuly passed by many in your same position. Earning your Tab will get you promoted ahead of your peers throughout your career.
Telling someone they'd fail because of XYZ is not advice I'd give to any young soldier. Instead, I'd advise them of what it entails, guide them to the resources that will aid to their success, teach, coach and mentor them.
Good leadership encourages soldiers to push pass their perceived boundaries, and set them up for a successful career. Weak leadership tells others they can't do it or won't make it, based on thier own personal perceived limitations.
If I woukd have listened to leadership who said I wouldn't make it, I wouldn't have went to SF selection(SFAS). Instead, I proved them wrong and spent my last 15 years in 3rd SFG(A) as an 18E.
Dont ever let anybody ever tell you that you can't achieve your goals.
YMMV
DOL
Chris sends
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Ask if you can go to Ammo Handler or the Armorer course. These skills make you critical to your unit when it comes to helping with all ranges (small arms or gunnery) and maintenance/accountability of weapons and sensitive items. You can also build on the Armorer skills into full fledged gunsmithing skills, which make you a force multiplier later in your career, if you ever decide to go to SFAS and become an 18B, and in the civilian world for a variety of companies whether private security contractors, firearms manufacturers, or yourself. Begin with the end in mind. Would you rather handle piss bottles as the unit drug test guy or be an expert with weapons and ammunition, which is in line with your MOS and why you came into the Army?
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